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Thread: Trader Guide & tips - revised

  1. #81
    It *is* time for a few updates .. I'll look things over as soon as I get the time for it.

    *yawns*
    Didymus - Solitus Trader, Member of Instability

  2. #82
    Assuming that FC might be inventive and pick up on the idea of allowing traders to quest/camp/farm for items to modify existing weapons (ithaca in this case). One important point to remember it must not have a damge out put that starts with 'one' as in 1-500(300) as it will perform EXTREMLY bad in shadow lands and there are plenty of SL weapons that exist like this for a trader already. They are fine for RK use but what a trader needs is a weapon that is not over powered that people scream nerf at us (that is what got us where we are now... at the bottem of the heap almost), but allows us as a 'fighting' trader albit solo or teamed (not all traders want to be forced into tradeskills) to perform as intended. The weapon should be multi purpose like the profession, decent in PvM, PvP, RK and SL, not a damn 'also ran' as we are now. traders can not compeat with any profession what so ever in any shape form of fashion and its destined to get worse before it gets better (if indeed it will get better).

    Evidence for the role that traders have is in the very nature of our nano's, skills, armour and symbiants. We can use artillery (damage), support (help others) and control (have skills to create). Therefore we shold be given a weapon and nano upgrades to perform the roles compleatly whilst being the master of none. Currently we fulfil the control role, struggle just to compeat in the support and don't even contend in artillery.

    Trader 'love' should be:-
    1. Improved nanos (see other threads)
    2. A new weapon with special or specials (as above)

    Ask a player why they create a trader now its either as a 'lowbie tower twink' or to access and sell stuff to specialist commerce shops for creds. Hardly the reason to level past TL5 let alone continue on into shadow lands it self.
    Last edited by brioni; Mar 13th, 2004 at 11:58:10.

  3. #83
    I could have an interesting tip for Us poor traders aggroed by the entire town each time we appear for wranglers.

    I will take my example, when many ppl begin to ask me some wranglers, i just self cast a 131 base wrangler on ME. and then i will only suffer a -11 debuff while recasting it on other. (+131 for 58 ncu & -142 hostile..)

    Effectivly, only the debuff part of the wrangler will be refreshed each time you buff someone.
    I find this somewhat interesting, it avoid you to go get a drainpet when you have multiple customers asking the buff.
    (yes i'm not 210+ yet and i cant self cast it after the -142 hostile effect .. )

    M

  4. #84
    Originally posted by Hargneuse
    I will take my example, when many ppl begin to ask me some wranglers, i just self cast a 131 base wrangler on ME. and then i will only suffer a -11 debuff while recasting it on other. (+131 for 58 ncu & -142 hostile..)
    Eek .. Can't see why it's not already there ..

    Many thanks, Harg
    Didymus - Solitus Trader, Member of Instability

  5. #85
    Trader weapons :

    I'm surprised that the good old OT-Windchaser shotgun isnt mentioned in the weapon section.

    It only requires shotgun and its fast. Its a crit related weapon tho, but with a lowbie scope and high AR its not bad at all. You get it at 1/1 very early, and frequent hits = more crits.

    Bump for a great guide
    | Evilbaffle - 220 Tra | Dominixe - 210 Doc | Maram - 207 Eng | Juling - 160 Enf |
    | Yumn - 169 NT | Niemo - 118 MP | Lucine - 185 Agent | Incision - 70 Shade |

    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.- Herm Albright

  6. #86
    To keep you even more busy :

    Vital Shock is a direct damage perk that usually do 2-5k ish damage. It also works like a lifetap. You get ecactly 75% of the inflicted damage back as a heal.

    Usually the damage is around 2500, something that give you a 1875 heal. You need to be level 205 to train this perk. (People usually train it at 206 to be able to have the Easyshot/VitalShock combo)

    Vital Shock stun the target in 3 seconds. The effect is actually a calm that breaks then you shoot at the target again..

    The distill life perkline aslo increase the power of your umbral wrangles slightly. Example: A +140 umbral and +10 distill life turn into a 147 umbral.

    ok ok. Maybe too much info here
    | Evilbaffle - 220 Tra | Dominixe - 210 Doc | Maram - 207 Eng | Juling - 160 Enf |
    | Yumn - 169 NT | Niemo - 118 MP | Lucine - 185 Agent | Incision - 70 Shade |

    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.- Herm Albright

  7. #87

  8. #88
    Thanks for feedback all and thanks for info Baffle
    Didymus - Solitus Trader, Member of Instability

  9. #89
    what about adding Smuggler's armor to the list?

    Check out : <click>

    .. and maybe also add the link to anarchyarcanums guide for making barter armor?

    http://www.anarchyarcanum.com/armor_barter.html

    *cheers*
    Last edited by Baffle; Apr 30th, 2004 at 01:32:01.
    | Evilbaffle - 220 Tra | Dominixe - 210 Doc | Maram - 207 Eng | Juling - 160 Enf |
    | Yumn - 169 NT | Niemo - 118 MP | Lucine - 185 Agent | Incision - 70 Shade |

    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.- Herm Albright

  10. #90
    Been thinking about the exact same thing pretty much,
    but I came to the conclusion I wanna redo that section completely ..

    I will do it after I get home from .nl .. Visiting my GF!
    Didymus - Solitus Trader, Member of Instability

  11. #91
    There, updated the armor section .. *phew*

    I haven't included the prowler armor yet etc., did the armors mentioned first.
    Seems I might have to remove one of the other armors to fit it in, the post got a bit bigger
    than I first intended .. Wish there wasn't a limit to post size, hehe

    I'll add it after I catch my breath

    edit : I'll also redo other sections inthe near future.
    Last edited by Didymus; May 11th, 2004 at 15:47:19.
    Didymus - Solitus Trader, Member of Instability

  12. #92
    Added some Screenshots to the armor section and reduced it a bit. I'm having a hard time with the post sizes.

    Cz, please unnerf post-size


    And many, many thanks to Lucky Charms for helping me out with and appearing on some of the screenshots.

    Thank you sweetie! *hugs*
    Didymus - Solitus Trader, Member of Instability

  13. #93
    Originally posted by Didymus


    And many, many thanks to Lucky Charms for helping me out with and appearing on some of the screenshots.

    Thank you sweetie! *hugs*
    Anytime baby *kisses*

    Looks really great!!
    *la la land*
    FIRST ORDER 4 evah!

  14. #94
    *notices the host domain for the new armor images * o.o

    Tad "Tadpole" Bagels

    Didymus: "I don't work anymore - so I don't have that much time to spend on the forums."

  15. #95
    Originally posted by Tadpole
    *notices the host domain for the new armor images * o.o

    Hehe

    Oh well, webspace is webspace

    At least I got it for free
    Didymus - Solitus Trader, Member of Instability

  16. #96

    Thxs

    I been away for a 1 1/2 years from AO and forgotalot of stuff I'm a 59th lvl trader with SL and I have know clue what i was doing when i left lol,Your guide has been helpful thxs

  17. #97

    Newbie Trader Question about weapons

    Hi all, I'm a new player to AO and, thus, to this forum. I've started playing a trader and this guide has been invaluable. One thing i would like to ask more experienced palyers is about the feasability of a trader using weapons other than shotguns.
    My relationship with shotguns started out well. I tweaked my start up gun and then, at about level 5 in shodowlands I moved onto the (handmade) Chimera Shotgun which served me well for aonther 10 levels. Then things started something of an inexorable slide. Basically i was getting my backsided handed to me and living on a steady diet of humble pie. I reset my shotgun points and put them all into pistols, which seemed the only other really viable weapon since everything else is dark blue. I bought myself a pair of The Original Electronicums. Things took a sharp upturn for the better and i''m now level 24 and the pretty happy with pistols. So far i've put just enough points into Multi weapons to equip 2 pistols and have no special attacks. So, my questions is this: Given the more costly path of pistols is it really feasible to go all the way with pistols. If the answer to the above is yes, can anyone please recommend any good pistols to look out for since this type are the best of several types i've tried so far.
    Thanks in advance.

  18. #98

    pistols

    hiya ive just started a trader myself so i cant say if pistol will go all the way but as for good pistols if you can find them flux pistols are good for shadowlands, they drop from random mobs so hard to come by unless you can buy them from players and there not fast but there are one of the only pistols without a proffesion requirement that have a high min damage which is the all important weapon stat as you go further into sl.

    anyway good luck with your trader, mine i think is gona be going the way of the dodo

  19. #99
    Seems like this guide can use some updating.

    If Didymus isnt coming back soon I will have to do some rewriting here.
    | Evilbaffle - 220 Tra | Dominixe - 210 Doc | Maram - 207 Eng | Juling - 160 Enf |
    | Yumn - 169 NT | Niemo - 118 MP | Lucine - 185 Agent | Incision - 70 Shade |

    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.- Herm Albright

  20. #100

    Cool Wheres the Krutt?

    No Krutt Waltzing Queen Special ql 184????
    Old skool Criting is the way to go w/ that baby, get it and ur good.

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