layers and new inferno mobs

[ZenWon]

Totally fookin awesome...NOT. Thanks for nerfing my two of my three main toons FC(advy/enfo) Ive always been about the PvM with PvP a distant second, all the perks I have in biococoon and my absorb layers wasted..

[Philty]

This seems very clear Philty. I really don't think Means will hold your hand for a walk arround inf.

I really do not expect it from him. I will find out by myself pretty soon and without some big and exciting exploration, its matter of one day to have some general idea about it.
Ok, for me seems clear now just fact that some of new mobs in inferno behave this way and that this behavior is probably not a bug, but the question is still if it was intended and this question can be only responded by developer. My curiosity about this subject is just due to the fact, that my main is engi and uses cocoon alot, and this change will affect my gameplay in some mor or less important way in a future, nothing more.

[Means]

Totally fookin awesome...NOT. Thanks for nerfing my two of my three main toons FC(advy/enfo) Ive always been about the PvM with PvP a distant second, all the perks I have in biococoon and my absorb layers wasted..

1. Nothing has been nerfed.

2. Things are exactly as they were before.

3. New monsters may or may not do single damage type attacks...exactly the same as before the patch.

4. I offer no spoilers of any kind. You will have to find out for yourself.

5. Do us all the courtesy of trying something before screaming nerf.

[Lillagumman]

Thats just great, thank you for leaving me with no pvm defenses whatsoever.

last i checked you still got cocoon (even though it is somewhat nerfed vs some mobs) and reflect and heals in the bioline.
cry me a river. You got it better than my crat.

[ZenWon]

/s NERF

Tx for the clarification Means. You can have your sarcasm back though..

[Lumifly]

Mobs in inferno always did a limited selection of damage. Many actually thought they only did fire damage, and in fact, I have been told so. I never really pay attention, but fire and radiation damage sound about right.

Sounds to me like the original poster freaked out at something he never noticed before And of course, also sounds like he didn't go to other zones to test it for sure

Alls I know is that my cocoon and layers last as long as they always did and that I agree with mr. monster designer.

[Philty]

Thanks for clear explanation Means. I think that was the info we have needed to know.
Sometimes rumors are much worse than reality :-)

[Mamman]

I was refering only to Inferno, so far only been there after patch to check new looks etc. EVERY single mob out there uses only fire/rad dmg.

Just like they always have. The only time something in inferno hit me with anything else than fire/rad dmg is 1. numinel who can cast a chem dmg nuke. 2. inferno catacombs where all mobs hit for melee dmg only like in the other catacombs.
I've been running around in inferno for about 2 years now.

Nothing has changed with any of the old mobs and I still solo the ones I could before. The new quest mobs I cannot comment on yet as I haven't tried all of them but the ones I fought so far all mix it up between fire and radiation.

[IHaveHugeNick]

Well... looks like false alarm then? :P

last i checked you still got cocoon (even though it is somewhat nerfed vs some mobs) and reflect and heals in the bioline.
cry me a river. You got it better than my crat.

I'm not making comments on this.

[shadowdex]

OMG, what a bunch of snivveling babies. Be cool if this "nerf" really happened, then you could come down to my world for a while. Friggan adv's. "Oh no! My Cocoon doesn't work as good as it used to! Now I have to change the order, lets see do I hit Fast attack, dimach, backstab, heal, acro, then coccon? Or Fastattack dimach dimach, backstab, cocoon, acro, then heal......hmmmm" You make me sick.

not trying to make light of this for enfs and engies, they actually NEED it.

[Phargus]

OMG, what a bunch of snivveling babies. Be cool if this "nerf" really happened, then you could come down to my world for a while. Friggan adv's. "Oh no! My Cocoon doesn't work as good as it used to! Now I have to change the order, lets see do I hit Fast attack, dimach, backstab, heal, acro, then coccon? Or Fastattack dimach dimach, backstab, cocoon, acro, then heal......hmmmm" You make me sick.

not trying to make light of this for enfs and engies, they actually NEED it.

And exactly how many advs did you see here whining about this "nerf"? All I can see is a bunch of people gloating cause advs might get nerfed and one adv that actually bothered to go out and test to get the facts straight before crying for mommy.

Is that a whiny overtone I notice in your post? Hmm, nevermind...

[Credat]

Enfs soloing capabilities are on par with the trader ones now. I expect an emergency patch any minute.

lol

(sorry)

[Alienchild]

i think the dev's have been working overtime to get the patch up and running without major problems so cut them some slack?

they'll answer soon enough prolly

Best advice all day. If just all the screaming babies would stfu and understand that there are actual HUMANS working here. Cut them some damn slack!

[Unsure]

Best advice all day. If just all the screaming babies would stfu and understand that there are actual HUMANS working here. Cut them some damn slack!

and went to the same mob 3 hours later and he hits all dmg types again ...
may was a one off due to 1st spawn dunno beats me..

Funcomm forces yor NCU to run "SLack"
-outdoor adventuring -1500

HAAA..!

And we mostly enjoy giving yu a hard time on patch day dont take it personal..
its all that frustration from grinding beeing interrupted for like a few hours..
Secretly we think there might be a bug making lvling a lot easier giving that ubah SK we are craving..:P
Of course everything on roll out works "as intended", so that annoys the hell out of us, therefore we pick every little detail and whinge, whinge whinge,in the hope that next server downtime will come sooner ant that this bug giving massive SK boost will finally come for a few hours..:P

let me give yu some positive feedback
1)Over the last few patch the lag has been reduced so well done..
2)the new skill system is good gives yu information about dependencies on abilities ,well its positive..
3) the camera zoom with mouse scroll is good i dont have a problem with it
4) the redish inferno color and reduced poly is positive better fps..

Now chop chop get back to fix these code bugs ...

[Shaoleet]

1. Nothing has been nerfed.
2. Things are exactly as they were before.

Was it intentional to make all of the new mobs crowd-control resistant? I've tried with the new spirits, spiders, somphos... unaffected by all calm, fear, charm.. and at least the spirits have an aggro range beyond anything I've seen before. That's an awful combination for people who want to do those quests solo or in small groups..

[tweeky]

this thread is funny theres 3 things

1. the op and the other posters crying because coon isnt godlike anymore
2. people laughing haha advys been nerfed when they havent
3. the ark showing how this inst even the case


one word: LMAO

[Kari]

Was it intentional to make all of the new mobs crowd-control resistant? I've tried with the new spirits, spiders, somphos... unaffected by all calm, fear, charm.. and at least the spirits have an aggro range beyond anything I've seen before. That's an awful combination for people who want to do those quests solo or in small groups..

I've feared most of them at some point, and I've seen them calmed too by various classes ( trader/crat at least, not seen an NT out there ).

[Unsure]

this thread is funny theres 3 things

1. the op and the other posters crying because coon isnt godlike anymore
2. people laughing haha advys been nerfed when they havent
3. the ark showing how this inst even the case


one word: LMAO

Actually.... LMAO isn't a word :P

[atlasdreamer]

Actually.... LMAO isn't a word :P

It is in the world of ONLINE

If just all the screaming babies would stfu and understand that there are actual HUMANS working here. Cut them some damn slack!

Quoted for Truth

Just like they always have. The only time something in inferno hit me with anything else than fire/rad dmg is 1. numinel who can cast a chem dmg nuke. 2. inferno catacombs where all mobs hit for melee dmg only like in the other catacombs.
I've been running around in inferno for about 2 years now.

Nothing has changed with any of the old mobs and I still solo the ones I could before. The new quest mobs I cannot comment on yet as I haven't tried all of them but the ones I fought so far all mix it up between fire and radiation.

Yay! a voice of reason!!

/s NERF

Tx for the clarification Means. You can have your sarcasm back though..

another Sane Voice!! (something must be wrong thats three already!)

1. Nothing has been nerfed.

2. Things are exactly as they were before.

3. New monsters may or may not do single damage type attacks...exactly the same as before the patch.

4. I offer no spoilers of any kind. You will have to find out for yourself.

5. Do us all the courtesy of trying something before screaming nerf.

Means I sometimes wonder how ya'll designers and Devs put up with the reactionary crying.
Point Number five in Means post is one EVERYONE should pay close attention to
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I could whine...about a number of Unaddressed issues. instead I am gonna wait and see and hold my Complaints for a while (at least untill I get LE installed and am playing it )

[Unsure]

It is in the world of ONLINE



Quoted for Truth



Yay! a voice of reason!!



another Sane Voice!! (something must be wrong thats three already!)



Means I sometimes wonder how ya'll designers and Devs put up with the reactionary crying.
Point Number five in Means post is one EVERYONE should pay close attention to
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I could whine...about a number of Unaddressed issues. instead I am gonna wait and see and hold my Complaints for a while (at least untill I get LE installed and am playing it )

I thinlk You should read all the other posts about the downtime this is real fun..

and i dont care, never did, never will care what the mob hits for : either I die or I survive ..
CAGAF ( see if u can make that online word :P) if its rad, fire, or even crap dmg.
ther's nothing I can do about what dmg i take ..Or just swiftly swap armor between hits, providing i can guess what is gonna hit me with..lol
then I quickly re-equip a mantis for that extra ener projectile dmg..
then swap again ..hoohoo
Wait this is all wrong I cant self my merc NOOOOooooo -Reclaim
So i think about what just happen to me in the garden while rezzing..
..Nano rasing
...
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I know..
Lets Level a trox Advy,,they say its godmode ..
yeah, off to roll a new advy, selll all that crappy gear so I can twink at 60 ..be king of PvP..( with my pocket Doc helping)
Hehe
Humour fgs..!