What is this?
The 3rd or 4th time you give ETA on 14.5 and then not keeping that..
Better to say 14.5 will be in game sometime in the future, this is very annoying..
Maybe its time to do something to test server so patches is acually well tested....
this is crazy..
What is this?
The 3rd or 4th time you give ETA on 14.5 and then not keeping that..
Better to say 14.5 will be in game sometime in the future, this is very annoying..
Maybe its time to do something to test server so patches is acually well tested....
The reason for it being postponed is *because* we tested it..., if the testers hadn't caught this one it *would* have gone live, and people whould have moaned about 'what use is the test server'. Now they'll moan 'we'd have got awau with it if it hadn't been for you meddling testers..' heh
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[Social] Means: I don't think we removed any bosses because of bad pathing...there wouldnt be any left if we did :P
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I think its good you found a bug, thats not my problem..
The problem is I dont think they should have set an ETA on it before it was fully tested..
what does ETA mean??
ESTIMATE time of arrival...
its just an indication of when to expect it, who cares u have to wait 1 hour longer if that means u wont have to go through a nasty bug after its on live...
ETA = *estimated* time of arrival.
But yes, it might have been a better idea to emphasise that fact (especially since testlive only got the 'final' patch yesterday). People would probably still have moaned though. Its a lose-lose situation for FC really...
"Do not try and catch the hamster... that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth... There is no hamster, only a deadbeat rollerat..."
[Social] Means: I don't think we removed any bosses because of bad pathing...there wouldnt be any left if we did :P
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I don't think it's crazy at all, I really am not a fanboy, but this time I think FC made the right choise.
The system is, try to improve the game, test your work, implement.
At the test stage, and bugg is found, good work all those on test, saved a lot of people hastles on live with their mains.
Coders tried to fix the error, can't be done in time. so postpone patch.
If some one orders fries, and in the box they get a potato, guess we could say the fries aint rdy yet.
I don't think this is crazy at all, I've flamed at FC for NOT doing exactley this in the past, when we're had yet more server down-time so a patch can be patched, this way is better imo.
peace
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https://www.youtube.com/user/caloss2 for guides/walkthroughs/letsplays and all your other AO needsOriginally Posted by Mastablasta
If they had released the patch with bugs, the flames from this board and others would have engulfed the FC headquarters reducing it to ashes. Im sure there will still be bugs but maybe no major ones. Kinda bummed though because Im off work today and would have had all day to camp the new spawns. :-( (sarcasm)
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FC doesn't release dates to the public = FC gets flamed
FC releases a patch with bugs = FC gets flamed
FC postpones a scheduled patch to fix bugs = FC gets flamed
<sigh>
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Originally posted by caloss2
If some one orders fries, and in the box they get a potato, guess we could say the fries aint rdy yet.
Crazy? Did someone say my name?
Thanks for beating back the Feature Creep and the manditory bugs.
Facts Flamers:
Every new feature will have a certain percentage of bugs attached to it. This is a norm for all software development.
If we had smaller less impressive content patches, we could have more of them (my vote).
Larger patches because there is more functionality, will have more issues.
Many issues cannot be caught by test, though test has to be ever vigilant.
No one wants to delay release, but it is the best thing if there is grevious problems
one alternative to resisting delay is removal of material - not what i want.
when the new patch comes out, you will understand why it was worth the time, or you are stuck in a rather repeatative play style.
so, FC, hurry up, limit the feature creep, get me content asap, and players please be content as well.
PLEASE, give use a simple YES or no answer as to whether or not the CoH chests can be opened
Thanks to all testers for revealing the bugs.
Lion Strimple aka Sware
We do our best, but you can't catch everything, some bugs don't even show up on live for quite sometime because they are so infrequent.
However, this one was pretty obvious, though it took me several minutes to realise quite how serious it was, and much more testing to be sure of what was happening. Others had spotted the same bug in other forms.
Whilst more numerous smaller patches seem a good idea, the effort involved in actually doing a patch of any size: write->debug->build patch->qa patch->test patch - repeat as needed, then build final patch, down servers for several hours... you get the picture. You might end up using more time doing the stuff around a patch than actually writing the code and designing the content.
That said, over 2 months is getting a bit extreme...
"Do not try and catch the hamster... that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth... There is no hamster, only a deadbeat rollerat..."
[Social] Means: I don't think we removed any bosses because of bad pathing...there wouldnt be any left if we did :P
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Well as a martial artist, I am glad you found the bug on test before it went live. If the patch had went live and BwT was broken I would have been upset to say the least. So, rock on testers!!! And, thank you for the job you do for us.
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL TESTER!!!!
They do a job that they don't get paid for, and are thanked very little. Please be kind to them.
*Fistgoddess gives a big thumbs up to the testers*
What was the bug, anyways?
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Yeah, what was it?
/G13
pirates. with lasers.
Are you having an argument on the internet, again?
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that with the fact that in a game this size changing one thing might require changing 50 different items to get the desired effects so in essence no patch is a small matter.Originally posted by Darkbane
We do our best, but you can't catch everything, some bugs don't even show up on live for quite sometime because they are so infrequent.
However, this one was pretty obvious, though it took me several minutes to realise quite how serious it was, and much more testing to be sure of what was happening. Others had spotted the same bug in other forms.
Whilst more numerous smaller patches seem a good idea, the effort involved in actually doing a patch of any size: write->debug->build patch->qa patch->test patch - repeat as needed, then build final patch, down servers for several hours... you get the picture. You might end up using more time doing the stuff around a patch than actually writing the code and designing the content.
That said, over 2 months is getting a bit extreme...
~aqua
All special attacks (MA, fixer bullets and special arrows) were not doing damage...Originally posted by Nobelium
What was the bug, anyways?
Given that potentially affects something like 35-40% of the playerbase...
"Do not try and catch the hamster... that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth... There is no hamster, only a deadbeat rollerat..."
[Social] Means: I don't think we removed any bosses because of bad pathing...there wouldnt be any left if we did :P
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*lol*
**** the ETA. Take all the time you need to fix that.
/G13
pirates. with lasers.
Are you having an argument on the internet, again?
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Haha
Reminds me of patch 12.6 when ONLY specials worked and patch went live anyhow... They lost many, many, many players that weekend; doubt they want a repeat of that...Originally posted by Darkbane
All special attacks (MA, fixer bullets and special arrows) were not doing damage...
Given that potentially affects something like 35-40% of the playerbase...
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