Friday With Means - January 16th, 2009

[Kain97]

RK1 is the default server.

If you drive all the new players away from your faction and/or server, it's not FC's fault.
If you can't wait a couple of months for new game mechanics to balance out side XP, it's also not FC's fault.

It's the default now, sure. How about the 2 years the default was rk2? Imo it should automatically switch every so often, maybe as little as once per week.

As for OS - I'll admit I'm not all that involved in towers other than defending what my org has, so maybe I'm not thinking it through, but instead of doing dmg at all, why can't it just be a knockback with either a strong snare with short (10s?) duration or a mild one with longer duration, as well as either a 'defending org OS only' with faster recharge, or, as Tiamin said, a cooldown per lca? Either way would still keep people spread out without being as exploitable as current suggestions, would it not?

[Avari]

Stop being obtuse, do you mean the omni-soli sb? because if so that was delt with at the same time.

Sorry, I missed the part where omni soli SB got a lockout similar to clan soli SB, and I also missed the part where the balance between a pro-active SB and a re-active SB was addressed

[Technogen]

The Effect:
Previously the OS would remove reflects and capped-hit you four times for 200000. This would kill anyone caught in it. The new mechanic on TestLive will make use of both suggestions from me (based on refinements from some of you) with both a large knockback effect and a smaller hit. Being caught in the OS will now: Hit you capped twice (Leaving you roughly 40% health), Knockback effect will move you approximately 120 meters from where you were hit, on landing you will be subject to a 30ish second/not removeable snare (to make it slightly more difficult to regroup efficiently.). The OS will effectively remove any roots currently running on the player.(NOTE: The root removing action is not in this version of TestLive but will be in the next.)

Or are you attempting to imply that the SB's are useful in some way that isnt an OS strike?

[Darkirbiskaa]

Or are you attempting to imply that the SB's are useful in some way that isnt an OS strike?

You are wasting your time with him.
Avari has his "SB complex". He needs psychiatrist and he will be ok again.
And this:The OS will effectively remove any roots currently running on the player.
He doesn´t see it.

SB complex:He sees only poping SB3 and root everywhere and everytime.He doesn´t know how he should remove it or resist.You can show them how,but they doesn´t see it!!!!! ><

[Tiamin]

You are wasting your time with him.
Avari has his "SB complex". He needs psychiatrist and he will be ok again.
And this:The OS will effectively remove any roots currently running on the player.
He doesn´t see it.

SB complex:He sees only poping SB3 and root everywhere and everytime.He doesn´t know how he should remove it or resist.You can show them how,but they doesn´t see it!!!!! ><

And omnis are so much better when it comes to justifying how things are and have been ever since SL came out.

[Keldros]

And omnis are so much better when it comes to justifying how things are and have been ever since SL came out.

Pretty much. Don't you remember when the omni garden key quests gave clan keys as rewards?

Clans have been trying to play the "Devs always liked you better" card ever since those got fixed, even though the vast majority of issues they have are trivial in comparison.

[madrid]

So tired of hearing about OS. Take it out of the game completely. We'll still wipe the floor with clan, then they will have nothing to whine about and hopefully will all just quit and play "Hello Kitty Island Adventures"

http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/ check it out...i'm going to start playing it soonish myself. There's no whining in this game...just MEOOOOOWWWW

[Avari]

And this:The OS will effectively remove any roots currently running on the player.
He doesn´t see it.

Here's the proof that you have no clue what you're talking about. It has nothing to do with the effect of the OS, or what happens after you've been hit/knocked back. It's got everything to do with being hit by the OS in the first place. Jesus christ you're dense.

[irmo]

when can we preorder? and can you please mount a rocketlauncher on the hover chair.

[Kaylinne]

when can we preorder?

Yeah.....

[Wakizaka]

When it's 90% done.

[Tiamin]

Pretty much. Don't you remember when the omni garden key quests gave clan keys as rewards?

Clans have been trying to play the "Devs always liked you better" card ever since those got fixed, even though the vast majority of issues they have are trivial in comparison.

Yes, 2k dmg shield+instant nuke is comparable to you not getting your garden keys, please...
Un-avoidable, un-removable and un-resistable root that lasts for 30s was a hassle pre-LE, it was a devestation post-LE and your example involves garden keys?

How about how clanners couldn't farm for arul saba bracers cause the penumbra boss was redeemed faction (figured I needed an example on your level)?

[Tinypain]

Orbital Strikes: The intention.

Timing:
Orbital Strikes should now execute in 5 seconds from the beginning of the effect where before they took 7 seconds. As they will no longer kill players the ability to get away and not be "spread out" is not as important. As it is no longer an instant death effect it should no longer be as easy to avoid. OS will still be available to orgs at the same rate vs. time. Should an increase or decrease be required we can adjust it later based on feedback.

The Effect:
Previously the OS would remove reflects and capped-hit you four times for 200000. This would kill anyone caught in it. The new mechanic on TestLive will make use of both suggestions from me (based on refinements from some of you) with both a large knockback effect and a smaller hit. Being caught in the OS will now: Hit you capped twice (Leaving you roughly 40% health), Knockback effect will move you approximately 120 meters from where you were hit, on landing you will be subject to a 30ish second/not removeable snare (to make it slightly more difficult to regroup efficiently.). The OS will effectively remove any roots currently running on the player.(NOTE: The root removing action is not in this version of TestLive but will be in the next.)

Hopefully this will be effective in the goal of spreading out combat and reducing the importance of OS mechanics in Notum Wars pvp.

Means,

While you probably won't read this I'd just like to point out that a much more simple fix to this mess would be to simply restrict orbital use to the defending org of the tower field in question. Same 15min lockout. This fixes all the orbital spamming at lower TL and high TL, and imo gives a fair advantage to the defenders who are almost always caught off guard by an attack.

I can't imagine too many people could complain about a change like this. I just think the knockback effect on the new orbitals is going to get messy and more annoying...I can already see people getting thrown out into lakes and stuff. Idk that's my $.02.

--Steve

[Omutb]

While you probably won't read this I'd just like to point out that a much more simple fix to this mess would be to simply restrict orbital use to the defending org of the tower field in question. Same 15min lockout. This fixes all the orbital spamming at lower TL and high TL, and imo gives a fair advantage to the defenders who are almost always caught off guard by an attack.

I would agree, but only if the OS effect is site wide, not just in a small area that means you have to time it so exactly.

[robbert66]

So tired of hearing about OS. Take it out of the game completely. We'll still wipe the floor with clan, then they will have nothing to whine about and hopefully will all just quit and play "Hello Kitty Island Adventures"

http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/ check it out...i'm going to start playing it soonish myself. There's no whining in this game...just MEOOOOOWWWW

omg what ya think will happen if all clan qwit,. smart post men keep it up..

[Mekh]

It's the default now, sure. How about the 2 years the default was rk2? Imo it should automatically switch every so often, maybe as little as once per week.

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[madrid]

omg what ya think will happen if all clan qwit,. smart post men keep it up..

Your ability to sense sarcasm is limitless.

[AnarchicReborn]

these friday with means are having less and less content every time....

Can we get some info on the graphics engine progress and how the remaining pfs shaping up?

[Avari]

these friday with means are having less and less content every time....

Can we get some info on the graphics engine progress and how the remaining pfs shaping up?

Most likely because there's nothing to add, and receiving the same message week after week is a drag too. It'd just be something along the lines of:

"Work on the graphics engine is shaping up nice. This past week we have continued stripping out the old engine and implementing the new one."

"An updated version of the Xan Playfield has been put on test and is available for testing." (<- this has in fact been posted somewhere iirc)

[Technogen]

these friday with means are having less and less content every time....

Can we get some info on the graphics engine progress and how the remaining pfs shaping up?

This Friday, Means will put a new part to his post "Random Filler that isn't true but should get you a few days of random forum flaming."

Up this week

"I would like Crats to get on test and give us some feed back on their new CH, it's got an AoE 100m 40s Stun attached to it to give the crat enough time to make sure that the heal is in fact complete."