I don't think this new perkline is useful as we would have to unperk one of our existing SL perklines and no pistol Crat can afford that. There are very very very few Crats that don't perk the exact same SL perks (out of necessity) and more nano damage is extremely unlikely to change that. This only helps the three Remod Crats and the one weird Crat still using a Shotgun.
Your focus for Crats should be on ways to boost our survivability. This is where we are lacking. This is what we have been asking for and what is needed to rebalance Crats.
My first thoughts on the SL professional perklines is "Er, dunno if this is what we asked for".
I like the idea of Channel Rage having a perk action at endgame, if the taunt works then it'll even be useful and MP can enjoy not being hit like the other pet profs, maybe. Although our healpet still hasn't got a hope in hell of healing Rihwen's 55k anytime in any real sort of combat before it drops dead.
Trance...I'm not so sure about. The DoT included in perk 5 stinks, flat out, and having that as a req to run Migraine is iffy. Only buffing PM/MC/nanodamage means this is mostly for the Nukes, but as Klod said, where are we gonna get the perks to use it? CR and SS are pretty much 'must haves' and Starfall, now with faster execution, is usually our main source of perk damage, which leaves the 10 last perks for stuff like Theoretical Research 3, Genius 2, and whatever else floats the MPs boat.
On top of that, there'd been requests for some sort of perk-based defense and there's zip of that here, not even in the buffs. Hope our nano revamp looks mighty damn good.
EDIT: More thoughts, the 1hb perks look good, I like getting both Ranger and Blunt mastery full access to MPs, and the split perk action for Bring the Pain looks really sweet and useful, actually. AOE Detaunt with self damage buff that's nice and big...I can't argue with it.
It'll be interesting to see where this goes from here, but I think Trance needs a fair lot of polishing.
Let's call it, Local Sector Insurance Reclaim or LSIR for short, to file under Reclaim System Game Enhancements.
Local Sector Insurance Reclaiming (LSIR)
How to make it work: If you take the way it is now, once a death occurs it immediately warps you to your last reclaim spot, into a system that instead leaves you as a corpse for a time till you press a "Reclaim Insurance" button. Until you press that button you can be rezzed with say a count down timer till auto Reclaim of like 30s or 1 minute or something.
Balancing factors: I would suggest for a balancing factor to make it where if you are rezzed your lost xp goes to your reclaim bonus but if you are not rezzed then you don't get the lost XP back (kinda throw back to old school concepts here but with a safety feature of sorts). Being LSIRd you would return with all of your buffs at the time of death eg, no loss of NCU situation including perk effects.
Doctors: This profession would be a natural fit for giving a new nanoline that can be cast to remove rez sickness off a person immediately and rez them or as two separate nanos and an AOE Perk LSIR action.
Adventurers: Make this a perk action that will only work when running the Tree morph nano (hint hint you are looking at Nanos, etc anyway make this action from a perk line that is only available while in tree form.)
Keeper: Making the Keeper rez only from AOR line for one and the other from Blessing, making Keepers have more of a secondary healer option with both passive and active healing proficiencies and rezes. I'd think making the one from AOR only work in the Shadowlands as a Totem that you can save at like the Engineer Nano but the SL version and the single target rez work anywhere but with a lockout and even maybe reduce their HP to 1 in the process. (See Engineer for details regarding SL Totem.)
Martial Artist: Has a short term buff that restores the person to full HP if they die with the buff running in their NCU's make it target only other (not selfable). Something like a scaling nano for lock out 5min (lvl 25)..4m(lvl 85)..3m(lvl 125)..2m(165)...1m(201). Duration, 5s..6s..7s..8s..9s..10s.. on the buff for levels respectively. This is designed as a short term alpha spike prevention nano.
Engineer: Make this a nano that will only work on RK as the Keepers would have the SL equivalent as a perk action. Reclaiming from the Engineer's terminal has a scaling lock out based on nano level version 5min (lvl 25)..4m(lvl 85)..3m(lvl 125)..2m(165)...1m(201)..). Reclaiming from this terminal will restore you with all buffs still running at the time of death same for the Keeper's SL equivalent for scaling/times and functionality. The durations of the terminal could be scaling as well with levels ranging from short to long. I know it would be annoying to an Engineer to constantly be expected to go refresh a staging area so can be something like 30m..60m...120m..340m...680m.. which is more akin to the average duration of tower wars for those levels respectively in the extremes.
LSIR Disrupting Professions:
Fixers: I'd even think about giving Fixers an ability to hack someones reclaim pattern within a few seconds before they die (a very short debuff that requires timing) to force them to the last "normal" reclaim spot like SL garden/RK City terminal and prevent rezzing/engi terminal rezzing if the target already has the crat debuff running on them then it discharges them to the fixers location after lockdown.
Bureaucrat: Make this a nano line to force reclaim to a particular location like a (privately instanced) Jail Cell for that death if debuffed with a particular short term new perk linked nano. Insurance Hack (I know there is something like this name already.. reshuffling names isn't such a big deal right? ) will put the target in jail cell for a short duration (30s..60s..120s..180s) depending on Perks spent in a line to augment the nanos usability from basic to enhanced version which can make it level locked and scaling) when they die if the NCU is running on their target.
Engineer: Give a local insurance reclaim inhibitor drone nano that can be placed to AOE prevent LSIRs. Duration and lockout and % chance to inhibit (nano resist check), scaling with level.
There is a plethora of reasons why and how this could benefit AO. Most notably the grind of having to rebuff and retravel to a spot being a major negative time sink which could be turned into a pvp stylized weapon and general pve & pvp enhancement. Anyway, nice to hear you at least are considering it.
Just figured since you all are working on so much I'd just toss these out there.
Last edited by Aethyrguard; Oct 30th, 2009 at 20:41:45.
You're usually a little brighter than this.
No it isn't the same. One of goals here is to provide difficult choices on setup, you're just too programmed to think in the way of the cookie cutter. You'll get over it.
What's funny is for advys, 1he gets the same +200 for edged mastery and has the option of perking Outdoorsman for 20 more - which strangely still gives multi melee and ranged, but no pistol.
Btw, the time to sell CC and buy back CC is now, it seems.
Eroz, finally 220/26/70 Adventurer & proud General of Regulators on ex-RK2 (outdated) equip
Rokroland, 170 Engineer No more crab for j00 Northern Front on ex-RK2
Sig last updated properly when West Athens still had people sitting about the subway.
Why keepers are ignored so much , Hope you Balance game and fix this
Auno.org > They are talkin about one of keeper's buffs
Batsernoud @ 2009-05-13 01:23
why isnt this nano in the list of keeper nanos in the small box to the left with proffession nanos?
teppox @ 2009-08-08 16:59
Cause noone plays keeper anymore
Even Auno , forgot our buffs. please Keepers love , not saying this cause im playing with akeeper , but fixing keepers will be #1 of getting game balanced . they are the only prof who cant duel these days. i trust you , you can fix this.
Cornflex 220/26 Keeper
Kaldr 220/20 Crat
Firstaidz 211/12 Doc
Organization : Paradise
Xarr 220/30/70 Atrox Keeper
Xarrdas 220/30/70 Solitus Engineer
Wrathwithin 220/26/70 Atrox Agent
Drimarcus 220/22/60 Opifex Shade
Mycurse 214/18/42 Solitus Soldier
Backend 150/20/40 Opifex MA
Leethium 200/20/60 Opifex Bureaucrat
There is a discrepancy on the perk change notes and something that is currently ingame that is not red:
Trader perk of sacrifice. Currently the recharge is around 5 minutes. The perk documentation shows it to be 100s. Is this reuse getting dropped from is current 5'ish minutes to 100s in the over all incoming perk change plans?
Achiever 60.00%, Explorer 73.33%, Killer 53.33%, Socializer 13.33%Originally Posted by Glarawyn
One thing the lack of perk defense does do is pretty much mandate SoZ as the only way an MP can survive in PvP or solo PvM situations I'd think, but if you are a SoZ fan, it looks pretty nice.
Nerfing our PvM ability to tank by shortening SP for a 10s downtime...idk what you guys are thinking. Are Shades going to actually get the dmg increase we want? A tool to make up for our no longer unique ability to output dmg? 10 more perk point to resolve our problems with roots/snares and allow us to perk ST in PvM for more dmg?
Solsfedaykin 220/70/23 Soli Adv
Shivj00 220/70/30 Trox Shade
Solsxtitan 150/x/x Trox Enfo
Prynxkjui 220 NM MP / Prynjunior 220 Soli Doc
The problem is that MPs were hoping for some sort of added defense. As it sits now, most MPs sit on the perkable end of the scale unless you're a shield MP, where you're closer to unperkable to most. While more damage is nice, the Ancient Knowledge DoT uses AR still as of this last check and MPs suck at weaponskills other than TS, and checks against evade close 50%/Dodge range 50%, so this will never land in pvp, though probably pvm quite a bit.
I think that's the problem we're looking at is our survivability is only improved by heals at this stage of the rebalancing, and while our perk heals are improving a fair bit, our healpet isn't covered by perks per se (technically a nano) so we won't see how that or any nano-based defenses (like evade buffs or creation shields) will be effected until FC gets to THAT point.
Right now it looks like we're going to be baby shades with tons of perk damage to dump on a poor mob from dots, direct damage, and pet buffs (heck, even the pet gets a perk action we use on it now). Nice for Shield MPs or creation MPs in general, but not so hot for pistol/bow/normal weapon users.
That said, on the whole I like the group changes, some of the weaponlines opening up (power up opening up to a lot of profs is a nice sign, for instance) in the groups tab is a good sign for things to come.
Stars "Wormx" Monkey 220/30/70 3rd opi fix on RK1, 7th on all dimensions to hit AI30 Thanks for all the raids : )
DanceMeTo "Summerglow" TheEndOfLove 220/27/67 Opi Fixer. Yes, I like fixers.
LifeIs "Winterglow" NoCabaret 150/14/42 Opi Fixer. Waiting for more hits with the nerfbat.
Doctor "Wormx6" Panda 220/20/55 Atrox doctor, dinged 220 off Thrak key quest : )
Mr "Ceilingcat" Monkey 220/23/52 Soli MP, hiding in the ceiling, watching...
Too many other alts to list here...
Spirit Phylactery has gone from terrible.....
TO WORSE.Code:Capture Vigor Target: Offense modifier: -52, Defense modifier: -54 15 seconds pvp / 60 seconds pvm
Listen to Shades, FunCom; they've been asking for IMPROVEMENTS to Spirit Phylactery, not nerfs. Keep the 15 second PVP change if you have to but PLEASE reduce the EvadeClose Defense check on all of them.