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  1. #81
    There are leases out there which you can buy, where all responsibility falls to the lease holder. Which would make it the problem of the current lease holder if their patrons decided to tear up Newland or any other place.
    It would be far more simple and fitting it it could be said that.

    Neuter's R Us is owned by the NLC.
    Beer and Booze is owned by Mac who doesnt really give a monkeys.
    Reets Retreat is more likely owned by the ICC out of them all, but is likely owned by a private entertainment company.
    The Grind is owned by the owner of the sunrise space station likely a private company, or the ICC since its an orbital job and probably cost a heck of alot more to setup.
    The Underground bar in Borealis, this is the most tricky. To me it resembles a converted wharehouse, so the wharehouse owner, which is probably a private trader or more likely a criminal/smuggling gang.
    Rompa's, Baboons and Relax are owned by OT.
    The Cup is owned by the Vangaurds.
    Happy Rebel and Enjoy it Whilst it Lasts owned by the Sentinels.
    This could be extended to most shops.

    Yet all have leases in which the lease holder is responsible, not the group which the lease originates from.

    Also i would like to throw this in if someone drinks too much, drives, crashes and kills someone its not the bar's fault its that persons. The proprieter has no control over what their customers do upon leaving their premises, yet in the civilised world the bar staff would not serve the already intoxicated. This cant be implemented in game so surely its easier to think of that as none applicable, Rubi-Ka is still something of a frontier world. Drunks in a bar is common place, there and on Earth.

    As for private property i would think that most appartments would fall under long term letting agreements to various degree's. So since all appartment sets are universal in look i would guess they were made enmass rented out or sold off.
    Which would make whoever controls where they are the owner, and whoever lives there the lease holder or owner depending on whether they bought or rented it.
    However no matter what an appartment would be private property.

    What I'm trying to say is it would be logical for the political power group who controls the city/town or whatever that such a building is located in is the owner for publically accessed buildings.
    Last edited by Lasliana; Jun 8th, 2010 at 20:09:11.

  2. #82
    Well in some cases governments do own and run bars. The casinos in Canada for example are owned and run by the government. But having the NLCC own neuters is again needlessly complex.
    It's much easier to just have businesses be privately owned, they're still going to pay out tax and whatnot to said government for revenue. Plus they would haven't adhered to whatever local laws.
    With the ICC holding the leases the business becomes more like an Native Reservation Casino. Where the land really isn't owned or controlled by the government but is out side of it.

    Okay I realize these are modern real life examples. But I think even 30k in the future for the most part they would still hold kind of true, cause they make sense. I agree there are going to be some big and powerful differences in the way things work. But I think a lot would be the same.
    I mean lets look at it this way. 30k in the future and humans are pretty much the same war mongering creatures they are when they first feel out of the tree and started beating each other with bones and rocks they found on the ground. That didn't seem to change much, nor the pity squabbling over land rights even in a time when energy is no longer a concern.

    Well other then the issue the Neuters thing causes with just kind of making the NLCC overly weak (note the Clans control their bars). It's also needlessly complicated. In the end just having Dante say "Yup this is my place now, cause I bought if from the old owner" or whatever would have been far easier. with no need for any other explanation.
    I mean really what's there now just says the ICC one of the most power corporate entities in the galaxy, it also concerns it self with little hole bars in the middle of the desert. Yeah that's believable.
    Not to mention with the one 1million mega corporations, in the galaxy the five hyper corps, and who knows how many little other things out there. The only group people would go to would be the ICC for a loan? And even still I think this is letting the ICC wear too many hats as well. (note I got the mega and hyper corp info from looking at the old ao site through a wayback machine. Granted it could be way outdated and totally wrong now. But since most info and changes to info isn't handed out too freely I have to go on what I can find for myself.
    Not to mention changes get made and nobody is really alerted the changes are just made and we're told to roll with it. One day I'm going to log in to see 3 suns, and the story will say "there has always been three suns" because it fit someones idea that day. okay I'm starting to ramble so i'll stop here)
    I don't PvP becasue my rlpeen is big enough so I don't need to make up for it with my epeen.

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  3. #83
    Sorry Lasilana I didn't see your post before I posted I was having connection issues.
    I see the NLCC just too small to be worrying about holding leases.
    I say let them be a government and just receive the tax revenue from the business. The government in the end always controls the rights to the land anyway so leasing is just one more step of complication.

    But i need to split... talk to yall later.
    I don't PvP becasue my rlpeen is big enough so I don't need to make up for it with my epeen.

    "Ahhhhh that was a good dinner. Now it's time to hit the playground and watch the little girls."

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by FoosballX View Post
    Sorry Lasilana I didn't see your post before I posted I was having connection issues.
    I see the NLCC just too small to be worrying about holding leases.
    I say let them be a government and just receive the tax revenue from the business. The government in the end always controls the rights to the land anyway so leasing is just one more step of complication.

    But i need to split... talk to yall later.
    Agreed on Newland. I was just putting something across that would be possible without being overly complicated. I honestly dont see anyone Rping who actually owns the rights to Neuters or anywhere else. To me the bar staff are in charge of the bar and those are the people your likely to take complaints to.
    Secondly i also have a thing against Dante, he has no real business sense. I dont know how he would scrap enough cash together to buy it. I was shocked enough to find out he was running it as it is, as a simple manager i could understand.

  5. #85
    must have got the creds from his homebrew he's been making and selling
    I don't PvP becasue my rlpeen is big enough so I don't need to make up for it with my epeen.

    "Ahhhhh that was a good dinner. Now it's time to hit the playground and watch the little girls."

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by FoosballX View Post
    must have got the creds from his homebrew he's been making and selling
    Yeah I've been thinking that its probably either hideously horrid or like chocolate mixed with beer (and actually tastes good) without the hangover. In which case he is the most lucky man alive.

  7. #87

    Funcom employee

    Dante also had a fairly lucrative side business as a carpenter while working on the Newland mayoral race. He's a frat boy, but a frat boy who knows how to handle his accounting. ;P

    I think that's one of the reasons I liked playing the guy so much - He's an idiot on the surface, but he mostly only acts that way by choice. Underneath the Keanu Reeves exterior he's a relatively intelligent, earnest, honest, average-Joe type. Even with that, though, I still can't believe he came in second in the election. ><
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  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Kintaii View Post
    Dante also had a fairly lucrative side business as a carpenter while working on the Newland mayoral race. He's a frat boy, but a frat boy who knows how to handle his accounting. ;P

    I think that's one of the reasons I liked playing the guy so much - He's an idiot on the surface, but he mostly only acts that way by choice. Underneath the Keanu Reeves exterior he's a relatively intelligent, earnest, honest, average-Joe type. Even with that, though, I still can't believe he came in second in the election. ><
    So Stifler?

  9. #89

    Funcom employee

    Nah, he's less of a douche bag. Picture Stifler crossed with Jay (sans Silent Bob) mixed with a dash of The Dude and you've more or less got Dante - Good old boy with a heart of gold who just kinda seems to go with the flow, but always up for booze and loose women. ;P I think its pretty telling that him and the Enigma Dog Trainer are apparently good friends.

    (Clerks was actually a big influence in Dante's creation - Long story, but he came about because he "wasn't even supposed to be there that day". I can explain if anyone actually cares. ;P)
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  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kintaii View Post
    Nah, he's less of a douche bag. Picture Stifler crossed with Jay (sans Silent Bob) mixed with a dash of The Dude and you've more or less got Dante - Good old boy with a heart of gold who just kinda seems to go with the flow, but always up for booze and loose women. ;P I think its pretty telling that him and the Enigma Dog Trainer are apparently good friends.

    (Clerks was actually a big influence in Dante's creation - Long story, but he came about because he "wasn't even supposed to be there that day". I can explain if anyone actually cares. ;P)
    Clerks... got me, explain.
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  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Kintaii View Post
    Nah, he's less of a douche bag. Picture Stifler crossed with Jay (sans Silent Bob) mixed with a dash of The Dude and you've more or less got Dante - Good old boy with a heart of gold who just kinda seems to go with the flow, but always up for booze and loose women. ;P I think its pretty telling that him and the Enigma Dog Trainer are apparently good friends.

    (Clerks was actually a big influence in Dante's creation - Long story, but he came about because he "wasn't even supposed to be there that day". I can explain if anyone actually cares. ;P)
    Yup explain..

  12. #92
    Didn't Dante win on RK2?
    I would like to hear the story how the charater got made, Im into stuff like that.
    I don't PvP becasue my rlpeen is big enough so I don't need to make up for it with my epeen.

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  13. #93
    Don't make him explain Clerks; go watch the movie yourself. Or read the summary on IMDB *eye roll*
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  14. #94
    One thing I have been wondering about.
    Why cant you duplicate apartment keys just as you can with mission keys?
    A apartment could be used as a office. I know people that has decorated their apartment that way, some carracters ingame are married and so on, if they are married, why cant they share apartment?
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  15. #95
    Why is it that hard to come up with original ideas for missions/events? And get RP community involved?

    I mean, Kintaii, you know in advance new game content. And I assume FC doesn't plan new content a patch at the time, but more like "let's do this and this this patch, next one we'll concentrate on something else and then maybe start thinking about another idea".

    So why not organizing events prior to patches, that give some additional info or even lead up to new content?

    And yes, you could "advertise" the event in-front to get good sized crowd. After all, this is mechanics that players are used to, raids for example are run in such a way.

    I also have a question/suggestion on how ARK departments are organized. I know Event team needs to respond to /petition as well, but does that means that regular ARKs, BHs, etc need to RP as well? If not, why? After all, they could create small-time LTC of their own, and just interact with players (small interactions, that don't influence storyline, like assembling a team and go dyna hunting while IC).
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  16. #96
    Regarding the ARK departments and RP:
    Every ARK can take a class and act in the events that we set up and many do exactly that, same goes for LTCs.
    Keep in mind that ARK is a volunteer program and making people do stuff that they have absolutely no interest in doing will only lead to disgruntled volunteers who will quit after a while. We won't rope people into RPing the same way we do not get roped into other activities that other departments do.

    That said all I can add is that we are thankful for every ARK who helps us out in that way as they do that on top of what is required of them from their own department. So, big thanks to you all, you know who you are.
    Last edited by Maleachi; Jun 18th, 2010 at 13:51:51.
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  17. #97
    I just wanted to add... I AM ALIVE!!!!!!! again.... you're all in trouble now muhahahahahahahaha!!!!!
    I don't PvP becasue my rlpeen is big enough so I don't need to make up for it with my epeen.

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  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by FoosballX View Post
    I just wanted to add... I AM ALIVE!!!!!!! again.... you're all in trouble now muhahahahahahahaha!!!!!
    This that wasn't a question, let's pretend this is Jeopardy, and I will respond to your statement with a question.

    What is a newbie?
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  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Trousers View Post
    This that wasn't a question, let's pretend this is Jeopardy, and I will respond to your statement with a question.

    What is a newbie?
    You should know I call you n00b! enough.
    I don't PvP becasue my rlpeen is big enough so I don't need to make up for it with my epeen.

    "Ahhhhh that was a good dinner. Now it's time to hit the playground and watch the little girls."

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by FoosballX View Post
    You should know I call you n00b! enough.
    I do, and I cry myself to sleep every night because of it

    p.s. Good to have you back :P
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