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Thread: Friday with Means - July 16th, 2010 - Martial Artist Nano Changes + More Heads

  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by notsomuch View Post
    As you said "Have any of the Martial Artists complaining about the MA Heals actually noticed the HoT effect that comes with those heals now?"


    You said now.... they do not HoT now... I know this because I use my SL, MA heals every day.
    I was meaning 'Comes with now" as in "comes with the document".

    Considering we're discussing the changes presented by the document, what else would I have been referring to?

    But if you want to complain about the nanos healing potential being practically doubled for increased nanocost, go ahead.
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  2. #82
    The MTI-B94 can cast Give Life :10 on mobs or in future a fist buff lol see Auno here:- http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=124430
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebondevil View Post
    I was meaning 'Comes with now" as in "comes with the document".

    Considering we're discussing the changes presented by the document, what else would I have been referring to?

    But if you want to complain about the nanos healing potential being practically doubled for increased nanocost, go ahead.
    It was a joke, relax it's just a game.. geez lighten up

    And nano cost is no issue to me now at 215, I can hit my sl damage which is a killer cost, then my SoR heal and not even feel it, so if people are having issues with there nanopool, then they may need to re-think somthing...

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    I use these and I have no nano cost issues at all..

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by notsomuch View Post
    It was a joke, relax it's just a game.. geez lighten up
    My apologies, some people like to nitpick and I must confess such nitpicking gets on my nerves a bit. Especially when I'm trying to show some of the added benefits people may have missed.
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  5. #85
    By increasing MAs heals' Nano Cost, they decreased temp damage buffs' Nano Cost. It only makes sense. Numbers are gonna be reworked, no testing has been made yet, just so you know. And yeah, I took care of mentioning the HoT part when I found the Nano Cost a bit too high.
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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebondevil View Post
    My apologies, some people like to nitpick and I must confess such nitpicking gets on my nerves a bit. Especially when I'm trying to show some of the added benefits people may have missed.
    It's cool, I'll apologise as well because my jokes suck, as shown lol

    It would bother me more so because, yes we would gaina nice hot, but tbh for "me" I like the current heal when I can cap it, taking 2-3k hits from Vorts can be vital to me if my perks are down.
    But in saying that a full evade defence setup with that heal in PvP would be intresting to see for sure

  7. #87
    Thank you.
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  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebondevil View Post
    Have any of the Martial Artists complaining about the MA Heals actually noticed the HoT effect that comes with those heals now?

    P.S. The HoT on Matrix of Ka would seem to heal for an additional 300 - 2700 hp of damage over 12 seconds
    Nono that hot only happens when you're in Zazen stance and who knows how much zazen will nerf dmg/AR etc.

    But anyway, the new team heal makes up for whatever nonsense MoK will become

  9. #89
    Where's my vid? No one cares about those g*****m heads.

  10. #90
    MA Heal Math

    That is the math for the top two single heals with the hot computed using the defensive stance. Just linking since a lot of people will most likely comment here and not over in the MA forums.
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  11. #91
    nice infos.

    hope MAs will appreciate ; as non-specialist of that class, that seems interesting to me already.
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  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    It will be possible to transfer characters between accounts that have been permanently linked. (NO good for character sales.)

    We hope to make it possible to link accounts together in the near future. (Turn an old account into a sub account of your "Main" account...same deal as veteran accounts in terms of vet points.) It isn't done yet. A great many of you guys have more than one account...of course you should be able to link them together and transfer characters without having to create a "new" kind of account.

    This is not an enormous job so it should be weeks rather than months.
    When is this going to happen?

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by bulk View Post
    When is this going to happen?
    Let's hope it's not "within the next 3 weeks."

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  14. #94
    When will we get the old-engine optimisation mentioned in last week's FWM?
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  15. #95
    I really love the MA changes, especially the duration increases.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by LyrLazarus View Post
    I really love the MA changes, especially the duration increases.
    Duration increases are FTW. It will be much easier to keep my muffin hot now.
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  17. #97
    Not sure what 'cool down' in MA heals is for now. Is that like recharge +? At the ranges where you can use the present MA heals (up to about 140) you are spamming the heals in a fight. An 8 second cool down will nerf this - thus making low level heals pointless. As it is, pretty much only old schoolers use them.

    The evade boost (120 - 210) is nice but still nowhere near what a fixer can get with SWS X - hell, it's equivalent to roughly SWS 3. And MAs are the evade and crit class, right? Only their evades aren't the best. If 'fake out' and 'stutter step' actually boosted all evades then the line would be worth it. Who ever thought boosting 'evade close' alone was a good idea when players and mobs have multiple attacks and perks running all the time? What is that - a deliberate joke? Especially when it overwrites RI.

    And our crits aren't slated for anything. 24% is still the top.

    Autumn Leaves, Anvil Fists, Fists of the Winter Flame all look like good endgame boosts. The new fists look cool. The 'fear' line looks cool but I have as yet to see it work ever... that's since 2002.

    Form of Tessai still drains 40 strength which is why no one uses it that I have ever spoken too except occasionally for brief tweaking. It also requires MC and the lower MA armor nanos are so weak that the entire nano line is usually avoided. Looks like the ACs are going to be boosted a bit for the newer version of the nano line but I recommend lowering or dropping altogether the Strength deficit. You want to lower something? Lower intel. We can take that hit.

    We need a brawl update. Something on the order of 200+.

    The booster 'unnoticed strike' is great.

    The new solitus faces really do look very asian - at least in the eyes. Realistically human descendants will look at least partially asian. However, the designers either don't get or don't care to get non-asian facial construction. Even Means' special head has too narrow a brow.
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  18. #98
    Balance posts make me lawl. Sorry for the leet speak, it's true though.

    I remember when the changes were first introduced and some people who were mid symb/220 IPR talked about planning around them. I purposely kept FA and AS on my Fixer post 220 because I knew the changes wouldn't happen anytime soon. Still rocking that dual combo to this day without any worry that it'll be changed anytime soon.
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  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by If6Was9 View Post
    The new solitus faces really do look very asian - at least in the eyes. Realistically human descendants will look at least partially asian. However, the designers either don't get or don't care to get non-asian facial construction. Even Means' special head has too narrow a brow.
    That would be....

    Because those 2 solitus heads are from the asian solitus characters you can pick from?
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  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kamathefixer View Post
    That would be....

    Because those 2 solitus heads are from the asian solitus characters you can pick from?
    You know this because.... your magic 8 ball told you? And that was the.... asian special Atrox head?
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    Wouldn't it be better if all the attributes were combined into one skill called "goodness?"

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