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  1. #161
    Why not Vhab? The MMORPG Ryzom which is commercial too, has even gone Open Source lately.
    Maybe it would not be so bad for AO to do that too.
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  3. #163
    Seeing how much time it takes to patch servers, I don't want FC to do it often :P
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  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by -Klod- View Post
    I'm puzzled... What is DB doing in Ryzom?

    http://www.ryzom.com/data/screenshots/karavanship.jpg
    If you look at this, it's like they have a floating city problem aswell.
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  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Vhab View Post
    It's working for me though.
    That's great, and there are places where the model does shine. You seem to have an amount of willing beta testers (why they want to do it is uncertain to me) but the environment of programming-in-the-small seems to be very conductive to this sort of approach.
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  6. #166
    soooo, servers are still up and its wednesday....no new playfield today or what?

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    I am sorry that the release of the "Mystery Building" has taken as long as it has. We had some significant problems getting it to work correctly (not floating...doors working etc) as no new buildings had been added for many years and the documentation of these systems left a little to be desired. However..with every cloud having a silver lining this delay gave Kintaii a chance to get the new open PvP playfield in a state ready for initial testing and we will be running some "event" type testing of this playfield on the live dimensions starting with the release of this update THIS WEEK. Possibly Tuesday but more likely Wednesday. This update will also include further tweaks to some of the daily instanced missions to make them scale *perfectly*. This update will also include new code to prevent friendly auras/aoe's from affecting your opponent in duels.
    Quote Originally Posted by heartless888 View Post
    soooo, servers are still up and its wednesday....no new playfield today or what?
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  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerusha View Post
    Why not Vhab? The MMORPG Ryzom which is commercial too, has even gone Open Source lately.
    Maybe it would not be so bad for AO to do that too.
    http://www.fsf.org/news/free-ryzom-1
    I was actually commenting on 'release often' rather than open source with my statement about not finding it suitable for AO.

    From what I've gathered, pushing out patches is a time hogging task in AO.
    Best not to waste too much of FC's limited resources on patching more often.


    Quote Originally Posted by eroz_c View Post
    (why they want to do it is uncertain to me)
    Why wouldn't they?
    Testing software and reporting bugs is a way of contributing to the development of software.
    If you had a tool you use often, wouldn't you want to help out a little to make it better?
    And of course there are those who just want early access to new features
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  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by tazalanche View Post
    Soon™?
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  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Vhab View Post
    Why wouldn't they?
    Testing software and reporting bugs is a way of contributing to the development of software.
    If you had a tool you use often, wouldn't you want to help out a little to make it better?
    And of course there are those who just want early access to new features
    There's 7 or so reasons why anyone would want to do beta testing... That's 2 important ones you listed. I didn't mean that it's beyond me why anyone would do that, but that the motivation in this case was uncertain to me.

    If you want a "why wouldn't they": For instance, even though it would be for the greater good to help you out, with my available playtime being very scarce I'd very much just like a bot that works all the time and due to bot hosting concerns / cross-org chat functionality, deploying a new build every so often would be really painful. My hat's off to everyone who does, though (even if I don't have one in the avatar ) and specifically for you, Vhab for that great piece of software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siahanor View Post
    Complaining about the realism of height changing mechanics in a game that has people who can channel their anger to make huge killer meatballs.

  11. #171
    Actually, this was about my chat client
    Which is a bit easier to deploy and test.
    But thank you regardless.
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  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by eroz_c View Post
    That's great, and there are places where the model does shine. You seem to have an amount of willing beta testers (why they want to do it is uncertain to me)
    In Vhab's case it's because he writes wonderfully clean code that is easy to read and modify. I would recommend checking out Vha.Chat to anyone interested in learning to code.
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  13. #173
    Being OCD with your code organization is never a bad thing imo.
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  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayria View Post
    Being OCD with your code organization is never a bad thing imo.
    Trim that bush.

    Props to Vhab too.
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  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by If6Was9 View Post
    Trim that bush.
    Huh?
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  16. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayria View Post
    Huh?
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  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by ayria View Post
    huh?
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  18. #178
    Yes, what does OCD have to do with trimming a bush? If it's some joke I've clearly missed it
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  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayria View Post
    Yes, what does OCD have to do with trimming a bush? If it's some joke I've clearly missed it
    Trim, trim, trim.. never gets perfect, till it's all gone.
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  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Demoder View Post
    Trim, trim, trim.. never gets perfect, till it's all gone.
    I see.

    In my experience, with my own mother being OCD, she's more a "must organize everything efficiently and keep it clean" rather then a purge type till nothing's left. That's what I meant by OCD with code, clean and well documented, no doodles in the margins type thing.
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