R.I.P. Traders

[Saetos]

With a de-buff duration lower than the buff duration you won't need a drain pet any more.
You can pre-drain on yourself, seems like a bit of a boon to me.

No you can't. Traders will be immune to their own drains.

[XenonDe]

Mh, did Kintaii state that somewhere? I don't see it in the document. The debuff and buff part are each in their own line. But I wouldn't be surprised to see a not Self tag on the drains.

[Esproc]

"You cannot attack yourself" ?
If that's the case then no one will ever accidentally drain them-self, which is still a boon for new/bad players.

Either way is going to have advantages.

[Taranide]

"no more cookie cutter running with GTH on myself and tabbing everything in sight" always good to have disscussions with players being well informed of the latest (almost a year now) changes to the toolset of the disscussed proffession.

It is still making things easy no matter how much you want to cry at its nerf.

+ A pro tip year in your planet equals a few earth months.

[Gridpain]

The biggest nerf for lowbies trader has yet to come...

I expect a Level Locked on mochams.

[Questra]

I have 4 lowbie trader twinks, and my 5th and 6th are almost done.

Noone's twinks will be as affected as mine, and yet I think this is a brilliant decision. I shouldn't be able to take down 5 to 10 people on one character, noone should be.

Traders have been the superior force in TL1-4 PvP for far too long, and are in the top tier of TL5 and TL7 PvP profs.

They will still have a good defense at TL7 via the Beauty of Life style healing they're getting access to and the crippling nano drains which will shut down many casting profs.

For once they'll have to put up with not being the best possible twink at almost every level. Please, cry me a river!

This change will be about bloody time, and even people with trader twinks admit that

[Shareida]

I have 4 lowbie trader twinks, and my 5th and 6th are almost done.

I wonder how you would react if i tell you, that i know everything about soldiers, just because i have a TL3 one.

[Syyceria]

They will still have a good defense at TL7 via the Beauty of Life style healing they're getting access to and the crippling nano drains which will shut down many casting profs.

Drains nerfed next to uselessness, NBD shortened, loosing a ton of aad, slapping a nanoresist check on our heal and raising it's nano requirements to a level where we would need mochams, all procs/drains landed and a pocket-trader to cast it reliable....yeah, the first thing i would do is jump in here and claim that trader will have a good defense and compare their heal with BoL.

[Gridpain]

I have 4 lowbie trader twinks, and my 5th and 6th are almost done.

Noone's twinks will be as affected as mine

You re that special ?

But I agree, these changes are good for low levels.
I think it will be even better if they nerf mochams too.
I even think FC should nerf the nano drains a tad... or we will see 1 trader depleting full nano pool of an opponent in 5sec.

[-Stage-]

The biggest nerf for lowbies trader has yet to come...

I expect a Level Locked on mochams.

I wouldn't count on that, actually. They didn't put level locks on single tradeskill buffs, which will buff by 140, and look very much like engi-mochies. I think this implies that mochies won't be level locked.

[sultryvoltron]

So, why a 15s duration on drains in PvM?

Why doesn't this debuff get the same treatment as other hostile nanos, having a seperate duration for PvP and PvM?

[fixyourself]

tl;dr it all but i have to say a few things.
Im sorry you decked out your 164 trader and it is gonna be less effective @ OP, but these changes are gonna improve the game i think. Towers at tl3 and below are gonna be completely different now. Trader reign as pvp untouchables has finally come to an end. After like 9 years you guys have had your fun now let other professions have a chance that is how i see it and i hope it stays that way.

[Rush3R]

ehehehe high time this happens, made my day!

[Shareida]

tl;dr it all but i have to say a few things.
Im sorry you decked out your 164 trader and it is gonna be less effective @ OP, but these changes are gonna improve the game i think. Towers at tl3 and below are gonna be completely different now. Trader reign as pvp untouchables has finally come to an end. After like 9 years you guys have had your fun now let other professions have a chance that is how i see it and i hope it stays that way.

I seriously doubt you are eligible to build an opinion about how traders performed nine years ago with your current expertise.

[-Klod-]

I seriously doubt you are eligible to build an opinion about how traders performed nine years ago with your current expertise.

It doesn't change the fact that tl1-tl3 traders were indeed extremely OP'd at these title levels.

[TronjanHorse]

I guess I'll be the first one to do it. But if anyone doesn't notice the fact that drains cost 1k nano and last 15 secs, and the heals for tl5/4/3/2/1 traders have been nerfed, well forget trying to fix this doc. Complete trash. And the spec 4 reqs on most of the decent nanos (nearly all nano drains) evenn those with low like 900- 1.2k nano skill reqs is an added slap on the face. Plus considering how little ar u can drain now, traders are going to face a lot more dmg and have less defense, less heals.

Congratz, guys you whined enough to destroy an entire profession. Kudos

Why do you think people whine? Trader was a profession that lean on destroying
others players toolset to be good them self. You can still do it, but your focus should
be on other stuff now.. Trader always been a tradeskill profession in my eyes.

[Ciex]

Blah, blah, blah. Traders are going to keep their cl buffing potential and while loosing some of their drain power they will get nano nukes. Most of the professions are just p.o.s. with their nano pools drained so if anyone thinks hes going to have some fun on lowbie notum wars on his doc or whatever he is wrong

[TronjanHorse]

I hope you be right, i hate no challenge fight.. to bad i dont play doc for pvp

[lainbr]

OMG Why ppl wanna nerf one more MP nano? Just to nerf lowbie traders?

[Johnnykay]

OMG Why ppl wanna nerf one more MP nano? Just to nerf lowbie traders?

Build crystalz plx