MP Rebalance inc.?

**-Klod-** · Jun 27th, 2011, 18:37:37

Originally Posted by Obtena

Actually, I agree. The faster SoZ and SS leave the scene, the better.

Indeed. That band-aid is ready to be replaced with a fresh one.

**Towerblock** · Jun 27th, 2011, 18:57:27

Originally Posted by Johnnykay

I'm guessing he meant nothing about swaps. I figured he meant access to perklines of 2 different types of weapons, such as 1he/1hb. My point was that it's far from just that access that makes Enforcers ridiculous.

Well aware of how broken AAO is currently.

**Nobody** · Jun 27th, 2011, 19:17:25

Originally Posted by crattey

Just out of curiosity; do you actually think mentioning you won't renew your subscription unless your demands are met is going to sway them? Do you think they're holding the MP rebalance back for a special occasion but this might just convince them to release it early?

That's irrelevant to this discussion, really. My point with that is as a paying customer I have the right to make any threats I damn well please about my continuation of being a paying customer to a company who's product isn't living up to my expectations. Everyone does and it's the same with all businesses.

The point of this thread is to get the community asking questions and debating when (if) the rebalance is going to happen. Not just for MP's, but that is just MY focus, on my profession.

On a side note: I didn't realize they added an entire forum for this topic, wow I've missed a lot.

**crattey** · Jun 27th, 2011, 19:31:15

Originally Posted by Armadyll1

That's irrelevant to this discussion, really. My point with that is as a paying customer I have the right to make any threats I damn well please about my continuation of being a paying customer to a company who's product isn't living up to my expectations. Everyone does and it's the same with all businesses.

I didn't say you don't have the right to make these type of threats. I asked if you really think this is in any way effective.

You do realize most people interpret this thread as 'just another whine thread by a kid with entitlement issues', right?

**Obtena** · Jun 27th, 2011, 20:02:11

Originally Posted by Armadyll1

The point of this thread is to get the community asking questions and debating when (if) the rebalance is going to happen.

Really? It didn't come across that way if that was your intention. In addition, any debate regarding if re-balancing is coming would be rather stupid. Do you think it's common practice for gaming companies to throw away money on game adaptations with no intention to implement them?

**Johnnykay** · Jun 27th, 2011, 20:23:03

Originally Posted by Obtena

Actually, I agree. The faster SoZ and SS leave the scene, the better.

This very well could be the first thing we agree on. It's the Zset that has made MP's as bad as they currently are.

Originally Posted by Bubbacrush

Well aware of how broken AAO is currently.

Keep going. It's not just AAO, either.

**-Klod-** · Jun 27th, 2011, 20:40:59

Originally Posted by Obtena

Do you think it's common practice for gaming companies to throw away money on game adaptations with no intention to implement them?

For what is worth, we have absolutely no clue if they are actually spending money on this at all.

**Johnnykay** · Jun 27th, 2011, 20:48:14

Originally Posted by -Klod-

For what is worth, we have absolutely no clue if they are actually spending money on this at all.

We can say that it will be a waste of their time if everyone's gone before they have any of the rebalance go live. I can't begin to imagine how bad RK2 is if RK1 is recognized as having the largest population. During US Primetime there are usually less than 10 people on LFT.

I question their exigency, not their intention to implement the changes. People may fear that doing a rush job will leave us worse off and everyone will quit, but if they don't get it together pretty soon it will have the same end result

**Obtena** · Jun 27th, 2011, 20:56:18

Originally Posted by -Klod-

For what is worth, we have absolutely no clue if they are actually spending money on this at all.

It isn't worth much because FC devs aren't working for free.

**Cryfreman** · Jun 27th, 2011, 20:57:47

They should hand out a breed change for people to play with before balance, then another one then

Not that it helps mp's any

**lainbr** · Jun 27th, 2011, 21:15:46

MPs are dommed. FACT

**-Klod-** · Jun 27th, 2011, 21:32:17

Originally Posted by Obtena

It isn't worth much because FC devs aren't working for free.

Who said they were?

**DaviasI** · Jun 27th, 2011, 22:08:59

The re-balancing will happen and it should happen all at once. If they roll it out to one profession at a time like the last time they tried tweaking things. We will get the profession-of-the-month syndrome where everyone sees the new shinnies of the profession; half of them roll the profession and the other half whine about how OP they are now and demand tweaks to the new changes before seeing how they affect the new rebalanced professions.

In my opinion, when the roll out happens it should go all at once. Spend a month or two working out actual bugs (not working as intended) then give people a chance to alter their toons, develop new strategies and get a real feel for things (instead of just comparing to "how it used to be") before we can give real constructive criticism. The changes should affect play-style, weapon choice, and in some cases armor/symbiant setups. I'm pretty sure this was discussed at the anniversary but they plied me with copious amounts of XXX-plumbo and oh I forget.

**Mountaingoat** · Jun 27th, 2011, 23:07:00

Originally Posted by lainbr

MPs are dommed. FACT

I can't help but notice you keep spelling doomed as dommed1!!1!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

l2notbefromsouthamerica(brazil?)

Also bump for op'd enfs.

**Spartanx9** · Jun 27th, 2011, 23:26:34

Originally Posted by DaviasI

In my opinion, when the roll out happens it should go all at once. Spend a month or two working out actual bugs (not working as intended) then give people a chance to alter their toons, develop new strategies and get a real feel for things (instead of just comparing to "how it used to be") before we can give real constructive criticism. The changes should affect play-style, weapon choice, and in some cases armor/symbiant setups. I'm pretty sure this was discussed at the anniversary but they plied me with copious amounts of XXX-plumbo and oh I forget.

That is the plan I think, well it should be the plan to roll everything out at once. I just hope they have enough alcohol for the **** storm that is gonna hit the fan when everything is changed.

One thing I do hope is for them to roll it out on test before they patch it in. That way we can get a general idea on how to spec/gear on. Also allowing unlimited Full IPRs and make full perk resets cost nothing during then on testlive for people to find their sweet spot. Then gather feedback during the test, then when live rolls out, spend a couple of months of keeping track of everything, as we all know that no matter how much you test on a test server, someone is gonna find a bug or exploit that needs to be addressed immediately.

**Obtena** · Jun 27th, 2011, 23:56:10

Originally Posted by -Klod-

Who said they were?

Anyone that thinks FC isn't spending money on it.

**Cogline** · Jun 27th, 2011, 23:59:05

The Rebalance had better come in one patch or it'll be like switching which side of the road people drive on only everything over a tonne switches next week and everything under switches the week after that...

**lainbr** · Jun 28th, 2011, 02:02:49

Originally Posted by Mountaingoat

I can't help but notice you keep spelling doomed as dommed1!!1!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

l2notbefromsouthamerica(brazil?)

Also bump for op'd enfs.

Pff ;o Dommed is moah fun! rawr (u blaming mah engrish?)

**-Klod-** · Jun 28th, 2011, 14:22:01

Originally Posted by Obtena

Anyone that thinks FC isn't spending money on it.

On what?

**Obtena** · Jun 28th, 2011, 14:43:14

Whatever the it was you referred to in your post.

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