i think mobs still can hit cap 1s/1s,but if they can get higher inits it would be harder to see effect on debuffsOriginally Posted by Spartanx9
lets take example with 1/1 weapon.. having 5000 inits allows it to be debuffed "alot" and still it hits 1/1.
Last edited by Otansaanpas; Sep 23rd, 2011 at 20:03:00.
You hit Tarasque with nanobots for 18280 points of melee damage.
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This is why the crat debuff is so OP
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on a more serious note, though, i hope db3 first boss will be slightly more doable for the hardware-impared
UBT gives -1452
why do we need crat debuffs then?
plz elaborate
*nvm guess mobs have 0.2/0.2 or sumtin.
Why is the page 1 and 2 links to this thread borked? Never seen this forum bug before
It says "Friday with Means - September 23rd, 2011: Initiative Data2, 1))"
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I saw that too & wondered what I had taken...Why is the page 1 and 2 links to this thread borked? Never seen this forum bug before
It says "Friday with Means - September 23rd, 2011: Initiative Data2, 1))"
Last edited by Tazalanche; Sep 23rd, 2011 at 20:41:54.
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ok ... if I ve understood correctly ... mobs / boss will do more damage than now if they are not debuffed ?
Guess I ll have even more easy time to find teams with my crat then
And btw ... I hope this change was ... heavily tested on Test server befor going on live ?
at all level ...
by "normal" toons, not twinks ...
right ?
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Yeah, I dunno what's up with that... will alert Waldgeist come Monday, if its still that way.Why is the page 1 and 2 links to this thread borked? Never seen this forum bug before
It says "Friday with Means - September 23rd, 2011: Initiative Data2, 1))"
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Why is the page 1 and 2 links to this thread borked? Never seen this forum bug before
It says "Friday with Means - September 23rd, 2011: Initiative Data2, 1))"There's a Right-to-Left mark HTML code (‏) in the end of the name of this thread, you can see it in the source code of the page. It's used for properly typing in Hebrew/Arabic (as opposed to left-to-right in English and so on).I saw that too & wondered what I had taken...
Just edit the name of the thread.
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We don't need crat debuffs, hence them being OP when a mob is sitting around -500ish inits and hitting once every 4 seconds.
Uh... won't this make basically all content in the game quite a bit harder? Seems like everything has been balanced (if unknowingly) around the existing mob initiative cap, no?
negative inits means the mob hits himself!
You hit Tarasque with nanobots for 18280 points of melee damage.
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How much is enough?
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Because crat debuffs land on mobs that UBT doesn't. And they debuff more things than just inits.
Although, fair point that UBT is nerfed too.
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Wouldn't matter in the slightest! Looking forward to being hammered <3
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The Red Brotherhood
I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.
Means: about f'ing time :P
Satenia: heresy <3
Znore: Mastablasta <3
Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics
Seems like they didnt know about these initiative capsPff moah love to crats ;o
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Changes should only effect mobs with over the 1213 initiatives cap so this should only really effect mid to end game play. Or at least that is what it seems like it should be anyway.
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ah the joys of reading between the lines..
btw: who knows what's effected by the init-changes. I bet noone can be really sure with anything, when changing the AO code, right? :-)
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