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Thread: Fixing Battlestation for real

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    Fixing Battlestation for real

    The battlestation design is faulty.

    In comparison to SWTOR it's the epitome of fail.

    In AO, you have a limited number of instances, either over populated or under populated by a group of people who by improperly planned mechanics will completely dominate one another or be completely annihilated with zero chance to win a fight.

    you have either too many people or not enough people, with no mechanism available to provide relief in either situation.

    As the previous poster suggests: a few years ago there were 20 people WAITING to get in (thus, not playing), now, there are not enough people to populate it, but, there are also 10 other people wanting to PVP, at different TL's, but, they ALSO can't play, because there aren't enough people at those levels EITHER.

    so... lets look a bit closer. There are some ranges that never actually worked. So why didn't FC address this then?

    The obvious, and still, the most painfully simple idea that was never implemented, is: why not have one battlestation with a leveling buff that was given to EVERY person sub 220 to equalize the playfield, and, have numerous instances of BS to get into.

    How much insight would it take to have forseen that the method of implementation would be so inherently flawed? It boggles me that 6 years later this poor implementation is STILL in game.

    The buff to equalize everyone is dead easy.

    You separate the field into 3 elements:

    220's
    201-219's
    1-200's

    level 220's get NO BUFF - that is, their gear, perks, buffs and abilities set the standard (IE. QL 300).

    From level 201 to 219, every toon recieves a buff on entry that gives them a linearly varying buff of add dmg, AAO and AAD that corresponds to the difference that the average toon would require to reach levels comparable with a 220 (something like 50 AAD, 25 AAO, 15 add dmg and 200hp per level from 201 to 219)

    From level 1 to 200 each toon receives a buff on TOP of the 201-219 buff that linearly varies according to the difference between levels, such that the average equipped toon of that level could be comparable with a level 201 toon something like (10 AAD, 10 AAO, 10 add dmg, 50hp)

    Now, instead of having 10 or however many retarded, unpopulated individual BS's you sign up for, you got one SINGLE instance that EVERYONE signs up for, and EVERYONE plays EVERYONE else EVERY TIME. When one BS fills up, the next instance starts to fill.

    Now, the difference between everyone is such that a level 10 can come up to a level 220, and start whackin him, and, if the 220 doesn't pay attention, he will get whacked to death... note, that a level 10 has few specials, few perks, and few defences, so, it will take several normal hits to kill the 220, but, at LEAST if the level 10 pairs up with some friends, he can probably take one down.

    Then FC should add: a BS first aid stim that requires 1 first aid skill and heals 10k HP with a 1minute cooldown and is usable by everyone, and a BS free movement stim that removes ALL debuffs, snares, roots, init debuffs, blinds, that has a 1 min cooldown.

    Finally, make ALL debuffs/snares/ etc cancel as SOON as you're out of combat.

    Now BS is competitive for ALL levels, fun for EVERYONE, and nobody will dominate due to OP'd, broken mechanics.

    And thats the point. The lowbies are weaker, but, you can gang up, and, it won't be futile to join up because you'll actually get to play. Twinking will reward you with more power, but not unjustifiable power. It all makes sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunarsolace
    This idea kills 2 forum trolls with one hamster.

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    You'd need to have that scaling buff include weapon skills, nano skills, and somehow spawn better weapons, armour, symbs, and nanos to use in order for it to be remotely close.

    220s "Wakizaka", "Sneakygank", "Wakimango", "Wakisolja", "Tardersauce", "Bushwaki", "Midgetgank", "Bugfixxx", "Ramsbottom", "Paskadoc"
    200s Chrisd, Malema, Delbaeth
    TL5s Youfail, Bugfixx, Riothamus, Johndee

    Proud President of Haven | TL5 PvP


  3. #3
    So if I get you right, you like to have a char fresh from noob island having about the same "stats" as a twinked, fully equipped endgame char or a twink for any lvl in between (150ish i.e)?
    In that case I just start a new account with lvl 1s...
    Krissy Krisdoc Machtgesund (LVL220/21 Doc)
    Lussam (LVL150 Enfo - Sector10 tank )
    Yeah "Mixit" Baby - Grenade-Engineer
    Prince "Cratbureau" Charming

  4. #4
    Only Communists believe everyone should be equal. Are you a Communist?

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Hotdog View Post
    The battlestation design is faulty.
    The problem is that they backed down from making you automatically join the new pvp pf while you wait in queue in BS.
    They wasted a lot of time and resources on making it and when it finally arrived after 2weeks no one ever went there anymore unless they had a daily.

    Just disable teaming in there, and make it to work how it was supposed to work in the first place e.g. Join queue -> warped to new pvp pf until BS starts.
    "The Tessargi Oppressor" 220/30 RK1 - P E

    Lazy: down with Tessargi The Oppressor! he is literally a Frankensteinian monster made from combining Gadaffi Sadam Hitler Stalin and George Bush into one powerhungry oppressor of the free world.

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    The real problem with the BS's is AO. As long as professions are heavily unbalanced, PvP toons very different from PvM toons and uberequipped toons have Iwin buttons, nothing can fix the battlestations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tessargi View Post
    The problem is that they backed down from making you automatically join the new pvp pf while you wait in queue in BS.
    Do you really want to be stuck indefinitely in a rewardless PvP zone while waiting for BS to start?

    I sure don't.
    Last edited by MajorOutage; Apr 13th, 2012 at 17:50:16.
    Because Race Yalm

  8. #8
    The game would be more interesting if levels didnt matter as much as they do now. Too much exponential growth. Otherwise, a few 175s would be fine against a single 220.
    Lilkueg 220/26/6x Opifex Shade
    Kuegen 211/11 Atrox Enforcer
    And Many More!

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