No more clicksaver/item assistant?

[Silvana]

There's a compile error at the moment, but I am still hoping to get it done today. Of course, my version of today is different being on the west coast of the US I still have 8 1/2 hours!

Go play with the anniversary stuff for a bit and check back in a while

[Body1234]

im from germany i go sleep now

[Silvana]

Looks like one more day for Clicksaver. Sorry guys, it's something out of my control

[Uragon]

Unfortunately this doesn't look like an easy fix. Changing the "AO locating method" only seems to not be doing the trick alone. In fact, AO simply crashes when CS tries to hook into it. Sorry, but I doubt I can fix this with the amount of time I can invest in it at this point. This will need someone to look deeper into what else might have changed internally in AO.

[Peku]

I really dont understand why people still use CS.
I am sure it was nice to have ten years ago but its uncomfortable and after patches its just annoying.

I was really happy after Mishbuddy came out, it works like a charm and i never looked back.
When i had only one monitor, the best thing was, it works in the backround, so you can still browse, work or watch a film while it clicks.

http://www.mmotoolbox.com/

[CheeseFace]

Clicksaver also makes AO crash as soon as you open a mish terminal if you just force AO to change it's window text (SetWindowText) as well. So yeah, it's something beyond just being unable to locate the process.

[Scottik]

I really dont understand why people still use CS.
I am sure it was nice to have ten years ago but its uncomfortable and after patches its just annoying.

I was really happy after Mishbuddy came out, it works like a charm and i never looked back.
When i had only one monitor, the best thing was, it works in the backround, so you can still browse, work or watch a film while it clicks.

http://www.mmotoolbox.com/

This. While I admire the work that has been put into CS, mishbuddy is less buggy, slightly simplier to use (not a big deal thou) and it has (or used to have) some features that CS doesn't contain.

[Gorathon]

'course, Mishbuddy doesn't work any better than CS atm. I stand corrected.

[Silvana]

Despite other options, I know a lot of people don't like change, have set ways of doing things, and would prefer to stick with what they already know. So for those reasons, we're still going to get this done. As we don't know what changes have been made to AO in this last patch that have effected so many programs, it's just taking a bit longer to get it patched.

Thank you for your patience

[Peku]

I know a lot of people don't like change, have set ways of doing things, and would prefer to stick with what they already know.

Thats why washboards are still so popular, despite a fringe technology called washing machine.

[EmSeeBee]

There's a compile error at the moment, but I am still hoping to get it done today. Of course, my version of today is different being on the west coast of the US I still have 8 1/2 hours!

Go play with the anniversary stuff for a bit and check back in a while

There are other people in my timezone who play this game? Could've fooled me.

[B-Raan]

Thats why washboards are still so popular, despite a fringe technology called washing machine.

Lets not forget that washing machines dont sound nearly as good when paired with a jug and banjo

[Silvana]

Thats why washboards are still so popular, despite a fringe technology called washing machine.

Despite the sarcasm, your statement is actually quite true. You might be surprised how many people in rural communities still use them due to restrictions on available power or wiring to run a washing machine, or they just want to save money. They're also very popular with new parents that use fabric diapers, for reasons that I'm sure are obvious if you think about it

As I did not say most people don't like change, or even a lot of people, the small minority I referred to is who we want to make this update work for

[Traumer]

The behavior that I have been getting is if CS is started after AO then nothing happens when a mission is rolled. If I start CS first then AO I do get the mission details in CS when I roll. But I also get the "Anarchy Online is not running error" which is caused by FC adding - "Character name" to the window title. Can anyone duplicate this?

[Uragon]

Interesting, that's almost working already... CS only needs to hook into the game once at launch, the window name then is still "Anarchy Online". So if that's working it's great and should indeed be able to get roll results. However it is not for me, which is why I sort of surrendered on trying to get it to work.

[Phixalicious]

I really dont understand why people still use CS.
I am sure it was nice to have ten years ago but its uncomfortable and after patches its just annoying.

I was really happy after Mishbuddy came out, it works like a charm and i never looked back.
When i had only one monitor, the best thing was, it works in the backround, so you can still browse, work or watch a film while it clicks.

http://www.mmotoolbox.com/

Because some of us refuse to legitimize a tool used to profit off someone else' intellectual property.

[Xyphos]

Because some of us refuse to legitimize a tool used to profit off someone else' intellectual property.

Exactly. that's like winning a bid on raid loot and then having someone else take it and try to sell it to you.





as for clicksaver, I'm working on an unofficial fix, with source code when I'm done.

so far I see that it needs a FindWindow replacement.
I've taken the liberty of including such a thing.

/*
 * @file findwindow.c
 * @author William "Xyphos" Scott <Xyphos@xyphos.com>
 * @date 23 Jun 2012 06:02 (AM)
 * @purpose Provides an universal method to locate AO's window based on partial name matches
 *          since the 18.05.00 update changed how things worked.
 * @licence PUBLIC DOMAIN
 */

#include <Windows.h>

HWND AoHwnd;

BOOL CALLBACK EnumWindowsProc(
  __in  HWND hwnd,
  __in  LPARAM lParam
) {
	CHAR buffer[512];	

	ZeroMemory( buffer, sizeof( buffer ) );
	GetClassName( hwnd, buffer, sizeof( buffer ) );

	if( strstr( buffer, "Anarchy client" ) == &buffer[0] ) {
		ZeroMemory( buffer, sizeof( buffer ) );
		GetWindowText( hwnd, buffer, sizeof( buffer ) );

		if( strstr( buffer, "Anarchy Online" ) == &buffer[0] ) {
			AoHwnd = hwnd;
			return FALSE;  /// stop enumerating, we found it.
		}
	}

	return TRUE; /// continue enumeration
}



HWND WINAPI FindAoWindow() {
	AoHwnd = NULL; /// null
	EnumWindows( &EnumWindowsProc, 0 ); /// enumerate
	return AoHwnd; /// return.
}

However, that's only half of the battle.
it seems that the hook itself is not broadcasting any WM's to CS.
...I'm gonna have to pick apart the hook to find out what's wrong; the packets may have changed (again)



EDIT: I sent in a probe, it never came back.
diagnosis: hook no longer attaches and I don't know why.

[Darkbane]

Yeah, I'd figured that much out... am going to look at using Detours, which is what AOIA uses (which is still working just fine). Your code will be useful though... simply changing the second parameter of FindWindow to NULL seemed to get somewhere, but I'm sure this is a more robust solution.

[Uragon]

EDIT: I sent in a probe, it never came back.
diagnosis: hook no longer attaches and I don't know why.

Getting it to attach isn't so big of a problem, I've gone past that step but ended up with AO crashing on attaching. So yeah, something changed...

[Xyphos]

Yeah, I'd figured that much out... am going to look at using Detours, which is what AOIA uses (which is still working just fine). Your code will be useful though... simply changing the second parameter of FindWindow to NULL seemed to get somewhere, but I'm sure this is a more robust solution.

Well, 2nd NULL would work too, and probably the simpler option.
my code is slightly slower as it enumerates all windows on the system, but it's sure to find the AO window as it's a bit more strict then just NULL for window name.

either method would work. I just wanted to contribute a little.