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Thread: Monthly Development Update: June 2012

  1. #321
    Quote Originally Posted by animaly View Post
    They already compensate you by releasing game patches with a "smaller" amount of bugs than what likely previously existed.
    The monthly sub is what I pay for the bugless feature ... FC doing what they are supposed to is no way a compensation, it is expected.

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    I would be happy with a social shirt that says "b3t4 T35t3r" with a picture of a l33t breaking something....
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  2. #322
    Quote Originally Posted by animaly View Post
    You either help or you don't. but if you choose not to then you have no right to complain.
    I'm going to disagree with this statement. AO has a very helpful community and I think that's wonderful but you really need to be careful in your expectations.

    It is nice when players go above and beyond but it is not something to be expected from people that not only do not collect a paycheck from the corporation running the game but have to pay to play the produced product. As such, it is not unreasonable for players to get some sort of incentive for spending time on TestLive to test content and provide feedback. I can tell you personally, that I have spent quite a few hours on TL testing things and providing feedback.. including doing bug reports (even in the old old system) and I've not even got as much as a t-shirt for it. Of course my personal motivation has nothing to do with in-game incentives.

    All of that being said, even if people never step a foot on TestLive they doesn't mean they don't have a right to complain when poorly tested/poor quality content is patched onto the Live RK1/2 servers. In fact, all paying customers have 100% right to complain when something is patched to the live servers that disturbs our gameplay experience.
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  3. #323
    Quote Originally Posted by animaly View Post
    They already compensate you by releasing game patches with a "smaller" amount of bugs than what likely previously existed. There is no need to compensate you or anyone else further for wanting to play a game or participate in the evolution of said game.

    You either help or you don't. but if you choose not to then you have no right to complain. As Ben Parker once said "With great power comes great responsibility".
    While I can agree with the sentiment and the first sentence I cannot agree to the second. Don't forget that people are paying to play this game - a montly fee that also is exceptionally high for todays mmo.
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  4. #324
    Just one simple question...

    Now that you got rid of the €5/month SL subscription, why don't you open up SL for froobs?

  5. #325
    Quote Originally Posted by BytEfLUSh2 View Post
    Just one simple question...

    Now that you got rid of the €5/month SL subscription, why don't you open up SL for froobs?
    They didn't think $5 was enough money per month ( as stated by Means as the reason why it was discontinued ). You think they're going to find free a better alternative?

    Which is quite ironic, since FC lost more people by doing that ( like the many people who cancelled for a month or so, or even just forgot to renew on time while actively playing, then came back to realize they had to now pay the full sub price to continue playing and simply left instead ) than they gained with the ol' bait and switch. So FC is happier with less players and fr00bs playing free than they were making money simply because it wasn't enough money to them.

    So actually, maybe they should make SL free. They apparently prefer no money over some money.
    Last edited by Phixalicious; Jul 20th, 2012 at 01:42:50.

  6. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by Phixalicious View Post
    They didn't think $5 was enough money per month ( as stated by Means as the reason why it was discontinued ). You think they're going to find free a better alternative?
    Lol I can just imagine bilboard ads in the gardens or in statics on the walls haha.
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  7. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by Kopecz View Post
    Lol I can just imagine bilboard ads in the gardens or in statics on the walls haha.
    Plenty of places to slap them in where they'd "fit in". All parts of Jobe being the most obvious.

    And they could easily add more "outpost" and such.

    And it can all be easily covered by ingame lore.

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    Last edited by Phixalicious; Jul 20th, 2012 at 01:52:18.

  8. #328
    Quote Originally Posted by Phixalicious View Post
    They didn't think $5 was enough money per month ( as stated by Means as the reason why it was discontinued ). You think they're going to find free a better alternative?

    Which is quite ironic, since FC lost more people by doing that ( like the many people who cancelled for a month or so, or even just forgot to renew on time while actively playing, then came back to realize they had to now pay the full sub price to continue playing and simply left instead ) than they gained with the ol' bait and switch. So FC is happier with less players and fr00bs playing free than they were making money simply because it wasn't enough money to them.

    So actually, maybe they should make SL free. They apparently prefer no money over some money.
    Where is the facts for this? Last time I heard; the itemshop by itself ALMOST covered the cost to make whole AO f2p.. So the 5$ isn't really the problem there, but instead something else.

  9. #329
    What ads? I thought agency that used to show ads to froobs went bankrupt? lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phixalicious View Post


    So actually, maybe they should make SL free. They apparently prefer no money over some money.
    They should, unfortunately they're as good at running business side of things as they are at game development.

  10. #330
    they should make some ads for ingame stuff too, to add some atmosphere. its a bit disconcerting to walk through bor on my mule and see ads for ao universe plastered on every wall in sight. Need to mix it up!

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  11. #331
    Quote Originally Posted by Louderer789 View Post
    they should make some ads for ingame stuff too, to add some atmosphere. its a bit disconcerting to walk through bor on my mule and see ads for ao universe plastered on every wall in sight. Need to mix it up!

    XXX Plumbo Beer. It's got what froobs crave. etc
    There used to be ads for in game things, if I remember correctly. Dreadloch Arms is one I remember for sure.
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  12. #332
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcore View Post
    Where is the facts for this? Last time I heard; the itemshop by itself ALMOST covered the cost to make whole AO f2p.. So the 5$ isn't really the problem there, but instead something else.
    http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...0&postcount=19

    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    The 5/month option was not really producing the results we had hoped for, so we removed it as an option for FUTURE players. Anyone who was already on the "SL only" plan should be able to continue indefinitely, even after taking months or even years off.

    Anyone who can not reactivate their SL only account under the same offer/payment terms as before should send me a message so it can be corrected. It is not intended that previous SL ONLY accounts are forced to upgrade to be able to play. That would be pretty shady and definitely not a good way to do business.
    Although I was apparently mistaken about the "bait and switch". Apparently those who had an SL only sub should still be able to continue that sub without having to upgrade or pay more. So my bad on that part.

  13. #333
    Quote Originally Posted by IHaveHugeNick View Post
    What ads? I thought agency that used to show ads to froobs went bankrupt? lol.
    They also announced a new ad delivery partner a while back.
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  14. #334
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastablasta View Post
    They also announced a new ad delivery partner a while back.
    And haven't seen a one yet.

  15. #335
    Quote Originally Posted by Phixalicious View Post
    And haven't seen a one yet.
    Nope. But then, there were very few ads in my region when they had them initially.
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  16. #336
    Quote Originally Posted by IHaveHugeNick View Post
    Announcing things that are never heard of again is basically all they do , so don't get too excited.
    Just reminded me.. whatever happened to the mentor program that was being held up by the billing department 2 or 3 years ago? Anyone know?
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  17. #337
    Quote Originally Posted by Traderjill View Post
    Just reminded me.. whatever happened to the mentor program that was being held up by the billing department 2 or 3 years ago? Anyone know?
    Already implemented. The entire project culminated in one command you could spam over and over and over.
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  18. #338
    Quote Originally Posted by Phixalicious View Post
    ( like the many people who cancelled for a month or so, or even just forgot to renew on time while actively playing, then came back to realize they had to now pay the full sub price to continue playing and simply left instead
    What?
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  19. #339
    Quote Originally Posted by Notcrattey View Post
    What?
    There was a 'special offer' on for SL only access a while back, if you signed up for it during that time, you could play SL for $5/5€, and as long as you didn't cancel your sub you would continue to pay that 5. If you cancelled? Tough luck, you gotta sell your house to pay full sub!
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  20. #340
    Quote Originally Posted by Raggy View Post
    There was a 'special offer' on for SL only access a while back, if you signed up for it during that time, you could play SL for $5/5€, and as long as you didn't cancel your sub you would continue to pay that 5. If you cancelled? Tough luck, you gotta sell your house to pay full sub!
    I personally just let mine run out, and let it be unpaid and I can still sub it at 5 dollars. Didn't know about the cancel thing though.
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