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Thread: AO lag in Windows8??

  1. #21
    My 7870 HAWK runs AO perfectly fine in Windows 8. Maybe it's not your GPU but your CPU since... well, AO is old and uses DX7 which modern GPUs dont really support anymore (or so Ive read. If this is false info strike it down)
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Tralauri View Post
    My 7870 HAWK runs AO perfectly fine in Windows 8. Maybe it's not your GPU but your CPU since... well, AO is old and uses DX7 which modern GPUs dont really support anymore (or so Ive read. If this is false info strike it down)
    You're correct, DX7 is no longer supported by modern GPU's.

  3. #23
    Sure it is, just not optimized.

    Also, you should make sure that you've chosen the right GPU in the settings menu.
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  4. #24
    So Nvidia's Driver information page says "Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI technology on DirectX 9, DirectX 10, DirectX 11, and OpenGL," which pretty much says it all. Same story over on the AMD site as well.

    Yeah DX7 support is with the Dodo's now. Whatever the card is doing for you is very very minimal compared to what it should/could do. When they said the engine was a must do they meant it. I bet we are 1 or 2 generations of video cards from AO's old engine just not working at all.
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Lheann View Post
    So Nvidia's Driver information page says "Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI technology on DirectX 9, DirectX 10, DirectX 11, and OpenGL," which pretty much says it all. Same story over on the AMD site as well.

    Yeah DX7 support is with the Dodo's now. Whatever the card is doing for you is very very minimal compared to what it should/could do. When they said the engine was a must do they meant it. I bet we are 1 or 2 generations of video cards from AO's old engine just not working at all.
    ATI/AMD actually cut DX7 years ago , NVIDIA kept the support going a couple years longer. It was after the 4xx I believe that NVIDIA dropped official support.

    Now as far as DX7 goes, cards rely on "wrappers" or emulation to stay somewhat compatible (brings back memories of the old Voodoo days ugh). I'm sure there's stuff in the DX runtime itself that helps in that regard also ( as when you update DX you can still see code in the update for dx7 and 8 ), but I have no idea how much. Maybe the emulation is in the DX code rather than the cards at all.
    Last edited by Phixalicious; Dec 12th, 2012 at 02:00:55.

  6. #26
    I have issues with launching the game.
    I have upgraded from Windows 7 x64 Ultimate to Windows 8 x64 Pro.
    When I start Anarchy.exe -> Accept the EULA -> press Play (AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series - Direct 3D TL HAL as rendering device) the game crashes before it even starts. (this is all when i try to start in Windowed Mode without borders.

    If i try to start the game in fullscreen mode I get 1 monitor Blacking out the other locking my mouse pointer in the upper left corner. Then it crashes.

    This is the error I get.
    Code:
    Exception code: E06D7363 
    Fault address:  76B14B32 01:00013B32 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll
    
    Registers:
    EAX:010AED70
    EBX:745F4B64
    ECX:00000003
    EDX:00000000
    ESI:100B3A90
    EDI:74B5B492
    CS:EIP:0023:76B14B32
    SS:ESP:002B:010AED70  EBP:010AEDCC
    DS:002B  ES:002B  FS:0053  GS:002B
    Flags:00000212
    Fpu control: 0x9001f
    
    Stack: From adr 010AED70
    E06D7363 00000001 00000000 76B14B32 00000003 19930520 010AEE1C 1005A6A8 00000001 00000000 
    04A30000 065655C8 065655A8 010AEDC0 5053484B 50786224 010AEE1C 0000001F 0000001F 06565588 
    010AEDE0 F8F68016 37A4E102 010AEE04 501A872D E06D7363 00000001 00000003 010AEDF8 E06D7363 
    
    Call stack:
    Address   Frame     Logical addr  Module
    76B14B32  010AEDCC  0001:00013B32 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll
    501A872D  010AEE04  0001:0002772D I:\Anarchy Online\MSVCR100.dll
    0FFB590D  010AEF98  0001:0017490D I:\Anarchy Online\GUI.dll
    Frame pointer not aligned. Stopping!
    <end>
    I've read through this thread, and correct me if I am wrong. You guys suggest doing a clean install of Win8 instead of having the upgraded version that I've got? Any other suggestions?

    I sort of have to pay some credits into orgbank to keep the city from going boom
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Diegles View Post
    I've read through this thread, and correct me if I am wrong. You guys suggest doing a clean install of Win8 instead of having the upgraded version that I've got? Any other suggestions?

    I sort of have to pay some credits into orgbank to keep the city from going boom
    Friend of mine used the upgrade from windows 7 version, and it had a lot of problems, a clean install runs very well on most hardware.
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    Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics

  8. #28
    Upgraded to win8 and AO works so bad,alt+tab is too slow..Today i am gonna try clean install and see if works..
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  9. #29
    tried clean install and still lagging , any ideas ?
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  10. #30
    I noticed that when upgrading to windows 8 my fps in AO is like 25 now when it was over 100 before as well. 3930k @ 4.5ghz 32gbs ram and 2x Asus Radeon hd 7970s in crossfire. I've tried different driver versions as well as I made sure the right drivers were selected in AO settings. Something is not quite right.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Xamofne View Post
    tried clean install and still lagging , any ideas ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bishploxx View Post
    I noticed that when upgrading to windows 8 my fps in AO is like 25 now when it was over 100 before as well. 3930k @ 4.5ghz 32gbs ram and 2x Asus Radeon hd 7970s in crossfire. I've tried different driver versions as well as I made sure the right drivers were selected in AO settings. Something is not quite right.
    Really dunno what else you guys could tried other then going back to the situation when it worked. There is really no sense in when it should work, i mean, when i upgraded to 8 it didn't work well. After a clean install it worked for me and i'm on a old rig (i7 920 @ 2.6ghz, 6gbs and 1 4890) i haven't noticed really lag problem during raids and for me it runs smooth enough including dual log (dunno how much fps i have). running in windowed 1920x1080

  12. #32
    When i went from windows 7 to 8 the first thing i noticed was a huge frame rate drop using my amd 6770. I tried messing with drivers and everything. Changing ao settings from Full screen to window mode fixed my problem.

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