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Thread: Monthly Development Update - January 2015 (The Calm)

  1. #21
    I'm particularly curious what will be different from the previous 18.7.

    Anyhow, Michi did good in the last patches, especially with things people have been asking for, so I'm confident this patch will be great!
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  2. #22
    Good luck getting all the changes in that patch documented in the patchnotes (We all know you always miss out a few vital things )
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  3. #23
    Im..actually really excited for these patch notes to be released...good job so far michi/all the other hidden people that I don't know!

  4. #24
    i've said it before, and i'll say it again. it is beyond folly to try to rebalance every prof at the same time. it will go bad and it will take a lot of time to sort things out. inevitably. people will get frustrated, and people will quit. do it one by one. that is going to be challenging enough to do for the small staff you have.

  5. #25
    That would take ages to do and runs the risk of needing new waves of balances when a later change negatively affects an earlier one. A rough universal template now, that can then be ironed out by the testers, is the correct course of action.
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  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Saetos View Post
    That would take ages to do and runs the risk of needing new waves of balances when a later change negatively affects an earlier one. A rough universal template now, that can then be ironed out by the testers, is the correct course of action.
    more likely it will be complete mayhem. why would later changes negatively effect earlier ones? even if so, it should not be as bad. but don't worry, they won't listen. i do hope i don't get to tell you i told you so. but i am quite certain i will. ao is just far to complex to give it a complete overhaul at the snip of a finger.

  7. #27
    Hi Mitchi,

    In case the 18.7 changes will require players to change their skill setup, will you provide a one time full IPR to us, and most importantly, without the need to de-equip everything?
    I will not have the patience to retwink alphas on all my chars.

    Thank you

  8. #28
    @Charmant: That idea is poorly thought out. I understand that stripping and re-gearing is horrible but you're not thinking of how twinking works and how imbalanced it would be to have a full no-gear removal required IPR.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Xootch View Post
    i've said it before, and i'll say it again. it is beyond folly to try to rebalance every prof at the same time. it will go bad and it will take a lot of time to sort things out. inevitably. people will get frustrated, and people will quit. do it one by one. that is going to be challenging enough to do for the small staff you have.
    Yeah, but Genele messed that up. The snowball is coming and you can either face it or duck.
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Baby View Post
    Yeah, but Genele messed that up. The snowball is coming and you can either face it or duck.
    ah. i missed that post by michi. but good to see he at least sees that its a problem and would have preferred the reasonable approach. also good to know i am not the only one thinking this way.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Baby View Post
    Yeah, but Genele messed that up. The snowball is coming and you can either face it or duck.
    Indeed and Mitchi is stuck with those idiotic notions that precede him; I hate to be the "I told you so" guy, but I am; I slated and expressed grievous doubts about Genele being AO's GD, I stand by them despite us all being ordered to stop expressing those concerns about our GD; (that last dictate issued was akin to a North Korea "leader" dictating that no person may raise a voice against them btw, rabid and desperate)

    And so it falls, quite painfully I'd guess into Mitchi's lap, I do not envy you Mitchi, but if anyone has the ability to make it work it's you.

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  12. #32
    GJ michi!

    And good luck with 18.7 it needs a bit of work but I think it's going to mix things up a lot in game.

    Do you have a MA professional yet?

  13. #33
    /rah
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  14. #34
    Hmm, Page 2... First for me!
    This is going to be interesting. Looking forward to testing this.
    Great job Michi!
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  15. #35
    "With regards to the rebalance changes themselves, I will be open to criticism, and will expect a fair amount of feedback. We have started initiating a number of new Professionals, who I greatly look forward to working with, and I hope to fill some of the remaining vacancies once these changes start reaching Testlive. Once again, thank you to everyone who provided 18.7 feedback - Many of the modifications made were directly inspired by our Professionals and general feedback."

    Perfect Attitude! Bring in changes, then adjust them in monthly rounds of rebalance until professionals are happy. Thank you very much!
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    This'll be fixed for the next patch

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Cratertina View Post
    Perfect Attitude! Bring in changes, then adjust them in monthly rounds of rebalance until professionals are happy. Thank you very much!
    i agree on the attitude thing. but that is asking to much. professionals by definition should never all be happy at the same time.

  17. #37
    MP updates...details please? Are we FINALLY going to get the power up we are LONG overdue for??? Especially at TL7!

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Cratertina View Post
    Perfect Attitude! Bring in changes, then adjust them in monthly rounds of rebalance until professionals are happy.
    Being a professional is nothing more than a popularity contest, and being popular doesnt not always mean "being right" {edited by Anarrina: actually lets not}.
    Pleasing the proffessionals is not a garuntee of pleasing the population since we all have our own agenda and point of view on specific issues.
    A past Engie pro, once decided it would be "cool if we had to use trade skills for casting", none of the rest of us agree'd with this and yet it still managed to make it in to rebalance documents.
    So dont try to please the pro's, try to please the people who actualy play.
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  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Caloss2 View Post
    Indeed and Mitchi is stuck with those idiotic notions that precede him; I hate to be the "I told you so" guy, but I am; I slated and expressed grievous doubts about Genele being AO's GD, I stand by them despite us all being ordered to stop expressing those concerns about our GD; (that last dictate issued was akin to a North Korea "leader" dictating that no person may raise a voice against them btw, rabid and desperate)

    And so it falls, quite painfully I'd guess into Mitchi's lap, I do not envy you Mitchi, but if anyone has the ability to make it work it's you.

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  20. #40
    AO is so dead and even though, Michi´s passion and dedication is that strong...
    In my opinion, the best man in this function / role this game ever had so far.

    You are doing a very nice job.
    Please keep up and never loose your spirit.

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