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  1. #1

    Just reach 200 with a froob NT

    Hello citizen !
    My little froob NT is now 200. It was a long travel, thanks to all Fixers for their speed buff !

    Unfortunaly, my lack of knowledge is so huge, that i have now idea what gear to aim; and i didn't find a set up for froob, PvE or PvP.
    Any advices guys?
    "Miy's Nano everywhere + Nano Targeting Helper": is it a good start?
    For implants, nothing special?

    Thanks for reading !

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    Grats on the ding sorry to say I'm a noob regarding lowbie stuff
    Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
    The Red Brotherhood

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    While Miy's nano is a "good" start at 200 froobs have many many far better armors, so start exploring options and get some. Azure, Biodome, Tara armors... those you should be looking at.

    Jobe AAD/Nanodelta, evade implants are what you want. ooh and head implant from IS. m m m! get that one.

    There are several dedicated NT armors, like Metaplast sets. NT weapons like pistols, or crystal melee eneergy weapons. Those that buff nano inits and MC are real nice.

    Naturaly getting all froob castable tools of trade is very beneficial.
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    This'll be fixed for the next patch

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    Faction and breed matters alot for NT's. The best armor as "Cratertina" partly mentioned is from Biodome/Clan equivalent, but upgraded with items from DB2. The Enhanced Kegern/Jathos armor. Faction plays a big part here as the clan one is defensive, omni offensive and neuts can wear both! Why breed matters; 871 Stamina/750 agility is required. I don't know if a froob can put it on, but it would be the best set without an expension flag on it.

    For back item: Cloak of the Reanimated Illusionist (5/5)

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    I'd be very surprised if a froob could get the eJathos/eKegern on. Even the 5/5 Illu cloak is going to be a big ask and that's 730/730 Int/Psy! I'm trying to twink a 200 froob doc atm and I'm running into these walls myself. Regular Jathos/Kegern is easily doable though. It's not bad armour for a full set too but it depends on your faction.

    I'm not convinced by the metaplast armour over Miy Nano either, but that might just be because I've not seen metaplast over QL200 whereas you'll be able to put on much higher QL Miy Nano and you'll get more overall mods out of a set of that.

    Azure chest is good though. Tara hood too. I'd say weapons are a big factor. If you can get the MC crystals that might work. If not then yeah buff guns.

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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiuchus View Post
    I'd be very surprised if a froob could get the eJathos/eKegern on.
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    It is doable, albeit hard.

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    Nice job. 200 Froob NT is... somewhere on my list of things to do... :P

    There are a few different ways you can go with setup, but obviously being froob, there will be some limitations here and there depending on breed.

    Some limits I've heard of...

    -Non-Nanomage *may* not be able to get the 5/5 Illusionist cloak on. I got the 4/5 on a froob solitus NT around 150ish IIRC, so I won't rule it out as impossible yet, but it may be.

    -Now that froobs can cast MC Mastery, I believe all breeds should be able to cast Resonance Blast without two dedicated buff guns. This will let you put a decent pistol on for extra damage.

    -IIRC, only Nanomage can possibly get 2 second nano delta. Nano delta, in general, is pretty important. Froobs lack many nano regenerating tricks that paid enjoys, so nano can become a problem very quickly.

    -There may be some issues casting all top buffs AND top blind.

    Here are some nifty things you'll definitely want to get:

    Merit Board of the Angry Men - https://aoitems.com/item/216303/meri...the-angry-men/

    or depending on the situation:

    Smuggled Nanite Merit Board Base - https://aoitems.com/item/267108/smug...it-board-base/

    Small Ebony Figurine - https://aoitems.com/item/202361/small-ebony-figurine/

    Mutated Eremite Leg - https://aoitems.com/item/216271/mutated-eremite-leg/

    The Primeval Skill - https://aoitems.com/item/206246/the-primeval-skull/

    Notum Focus (for its click action only) - https://aoitems.com/item/158914/notum-focus/

    Breastplate of Azure Reveries - https://aoitems.com/item/165304/brea...zure-reveries/

    Gloves of Azure Reveries (Less MC than Miy's, but adds Pistol) - https://aoitems.com/item/165306/glov...zure-reveries/

    Specialized Dustbrigade Vambrace - Nano Breed (If Nanomage) - https://aoitems.com/item/168882/spec...race---nano-b/

    Specialized Dustbrigade Vambrace - Opifex Breed (If Opifex) - https://aoitems.com/item/168880/spec...race---opifex/

    Journeyman Durable Boost (If neither of those) - https://aoitems.com/item/151716/200/...durable-boost/

    Pain of Patricia (Super slow Fling, but quick enough Burst) - https://aoitems.com/item/168675/pain-of-patricia/

    Majestic Soft Pepper Pistol (Buff weapon only. Don't carry ammo for it so PoP shoots at full speed) - https://aoitems.com/item/157644/maje...pepper-pistol/

    There's other goodies to get, but those are some of the best ones. I know we have Lliers around once in a while who actually has a 200 Froob NT, and probably even more suggestions.

    Also, feel free to message me in-game, and I'll take a look at your current setup if you'd like.
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    Loaloa - Soli Enf
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    Thank you all for yours answers. Looks like i have some serious work on this toon
    It's a clan nanomage btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizaka View Post
    Thread #1
    Thread #2

    It is doable, albeit hard.
    Trouble is those assume Atrox, and OP said it's a nanomage :S

    Ophiuchus : 220/30/80 HAHA etc
    Nahuatl
    :: 220/30/80 Melee 4lyfe
    Khurkh :: 220/30/80 healtankpew
    Transcendence
    Msanthropic
    : 210/26/60 nanostab
    Spidershiva :: 165/23/42 kite? eh?
    Silentmotion
    : 150/20/42 tankthink
    The Union

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiuchus View Post
    Trouble is those assume Atrox, and OP said it's a nanomage :S
    Yes, both Atrox and Opifex can do it. Nanomage, not really... but then I haven't looked at it with the most recent patches, with the addition of a good few items, so I wouldn't count it completely out.

    It's just a lot tougher since Nanomage has Agility & Stamina both dark blue, while opi & trox got one skill as green, as that makes it slightly easier.

    Edit:

    By default on a 200 NT:

    Nanomage has Agil 464 & Stam 448
    Atrox has Agil 480 & Stam 512
    Opifex has Agil 544 & Stam 480
    Last edited by Legendfluf; Aug 11th, 2015 at 23:35:58.
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    Froob Level 5 Collar: http://i.imgur.com/I19c92X.jpg
    Froob atrox Lv5 Collar: http://i.imgur.com/2zVqTX9.jpg

    With the onset of awakened beast armor, we can now equip Alpha chest on Atrox Soldiers & Alpha Brain on Atrox Doctors.

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinkera View Post
    Nice job. 200 Froob NT is... somewhere on my list of things to do... :P

    There are a few different ways you can go with setup, but obviously being froob, there will be some limitations here and there depending on breed.

    Some limits I've heard of...

    -Non-Nanomage *may* not be able to get the 5/5 Illusionist cloak on. I got the 4/5 on a froob solitus NT around 150ish IIRC, so I won't rule it out as impossible yet, but it may be.

    -Now that froobs can cast MC Mastery, I believe all breeds should be able to cast Resonance Blast without two dedicated buff guns. This will let you put a decent pistol on for extra damage.

    -IIRC, only Nanomage can possibly get 2 second nano delta. Nano delta, in general, is pretty important. Froobs lack many nano regenerating tricks that paid enjoys, so nano can become a problem very quickly.

    -There may be some issues casting all top buffs AND top blind.
    Couple of comments, since i'm a 200 froob NT:

    5/5 illusionist cloak is doable on Solitus at least, but requires a bunch of really exotic stuff including a full set of Safeguarded NCU Memory Units, Flycatcher's Specs, Breastplate of Azure Reveries, Crat ICRT, Extruded Nutrition Bar, etc... The task is made infinitely easier if you purchase a Neuronal Stimulator Nano Can from the in-game store.

    Running out of nano is a huge problem as a froob. I keep the new stims and battle-prepared nano kits in my hot bar and still run out of nano soloing any dyna boss level over level 180. Being a nanomage will help, but your nano will still run dry in long fights as a froob. Just a fact of life.

    The top blinds are largely irrelevant because froob nano skills usually cause them to fail to land on bosses and in raids against high level targets. Being able to load a nano does not mean that nano is actually useful. This is especially true if you've geared yourself up to max MC to make sure your nukes land. So don't waste too much time worrying about them.

    Vinkera pretty much hit the spot on all the best stuff. Few other items to consider:

    Lya's Sangi Glasses : https://aoitems.com/item/269192/lyas-sangi-glasses/ (something to replace our Hood of Wicked Inspirations at 200, unless you're lucky enough to get Gaily Painted Hood or Infused Gaily Painted Hood -- an item that I've coveted for years but will never to get for my froob NT)

    Notum Saturated Metaplast armor is still relevant for froobs. Easier to get now that Collector drops the shells and expansions players don't much care for this armor: https://aoitems.com/search/name:notu...ted+metaplast/

    Spirit Infused Yuttos Modified are froobable and can be imported from SL: NCU https://aoitems.com/item/267796/spir...-modified-ncu/

    Additional wrist option if you don't have the Vambraces or the Journeyman Durable Boost are two Soulmarks from IS to up your nano delta/max nano/aad: https://aoitems.com/search/name:soulmark/

    Finally, Pain of Patricia (and other pistols, such as the Two Layered Saturated Metaplast Six-Shooter) will be a requirement if you plan on being of any use damage-wise at a RK raid, but if a Galahad Inc. T-70 Khan is another buff weapon to consider holding if you have trouble getting the right QL stuff to build the Majestic Soft Pepper pistol.
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  12. #12
    I've got the PvP token board (2k7 tokens already.. wow i've done so much daily's...)

    I played my NT 100% nano damage while leveling, so today i manage to put my first points in pistol skill... (with bad stuff, kitting was my main weapon, so no pistols were used)
    I put on 2 pistols +20 Int/Psy, and manage to put on a 4/5 illusionist cloak (byebye Neleb Robe !), huge buff. Will keep those until better weapon. (and thanks to the cool Majdeath who gave me for free Shades of Lucubration
    )

    Facepalm of the day: Holy crap, i can wear 2 Nano Targeting Helper in Hud 1&3 at the same time; was thinking it was unique... That would be better than a yalm, isn't it? xD

    Next step: finish my ql200 implants set up... Let's calm and blitz missions !
    Last edited by Babane; Aug 12th, 2015 at 18:52:50.

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