Nanos that should have 4 hour duration but don't

**Tsuniko** · Sep 5th, 2015, 16:35:10

Let's list em so they can eventually implement the changes on some pass!

ALL pet buffs (10 minutes might as well be permanent, if you want to make use manage buffs in combat, make them last 30 seconds and increase their effectiveness by a lot)
Crat Auras
Engineer Auras
First Strike & Unnoticed Strike
Transcendent Shen Protection (and all Armour buffs minus Form of Risan)
All tiers of spec blockers
offensive steamroller
precognition
dark movement
Personal notum harvester
izgimmer's obfuscated recompiler
riot control
alleysweeper
Igimmer's mockery (and lower buffs)
Adv Morph Auras
Poisonous bite
Shade buffs that aren't top level
superior first aid

adding more as I think of them

**Ophiuchus** · Sep 6th, 2015, 16:31:32

Engineer damage shields
Engineer init buffs
Engineer AC buffs that aren't the top one
Engineer damage buffs
Iron Circle

**Angler** · Sep 7th, 2015, 13:03:01

Adv Morph Auras
Poisonous bite

**Wakizaka** · Sep 8th, 2015, 17:13:31

Martial Artist:
Transcendent Shen Protection (and all Armour buffs minus Form of Risan)
Return Attack
Velocity
Limbo Mastery
Lesser Controlled Rage
Fists of Stellar Harmony (and all other Fist nanos)
First Strike & Unnoticed Strike
All Kyudo buffs
Martial Arts Mastery

**Awikun** · Sep 8th, 2015, 23:56:38

We could ask for every single buff to last for 4 hours but that would not make any sense

IMHO all selfbuffs (except some strong AAO, add dammage, and any other buffs that have significant cooldown should) should be changed to 4 hours.
In case of buffs that can target other players I think that the ones that are used for twinking (like SFA, behe, prod str. etc.) should last for 4 hours, but all buffs use for fighting (pvm or pvp) like GSF, H&Q, NCU, etc. should not last longer than 30 minutes.

**Bendaar** · Sep 9th, 2015, 10:23:21

Every nano - except short duration combat (de)buffs of course - should have two durations : 4+ hours for native professions and 30 minutes for Agents.

**orochi3** · Sep 17th, 2015, 20:26:57

Every single long Buff should be 8 hours, period.
Buffs from agents should not last any shorter than 4 hours, agents should just be forced to stay in that mimic for an entire day.

ps : I just find it funny that the closest thing AO has in terms of best all-round mage is an agent.

**Cratertina** · Sep 17th, 2015, 22:20:40

True story. Agent Is now my top pick for AoE kiting....

But changes wise, Not sure I am a fan of 4 hour fixer hots at low level... Put GSF and hot on any lowbie and they can gimp around all day.... Way stronger than anyone without it.

Maybe level lock fixer hots finaly, potentially gsf aswell.

**vitriolic-v** · Sep 19th, 2015, 10:45:56

Originally Posted by Cratertina

Maybe level lock fixer hots finaly, potentially gsf aswell.

As long as it's well-below the level requirement to cast, if the nano is level-locked to upload. If it's intended to be like a level 25 buff, require a target be >= 12, etc. Anything too severe breaks a core game mechanic: Getting buffs to be more powerful than you possibly could innately.

**Tsuniko** · Sep 22nd, 2015, 18:23:41

Minaturisation!

**Tsuniko** · Sep 23rd, 2015, 05:43:47

Advanced software hacking shield (and lower counterparts)
improved shield of the obedient servant
Coherent polarized screening (Although reduce the root/snare resist to 25% and remove NR buff since we have pet attention now OR increase root/snare resist to 100% and make it only last 25 seconds)
All tiers of spec blockers

All Crat speech auras
nanite robot protection
greater corporate insurance policy
corporate strategy
droid damage matrix
droid pressure matrix

**Tsuniko** · Sep 25th, 2015, 15:14:19

offensive steamroller
precognition

**Kalahaan** · Sep 25th, 2015, 16:38:38

Hello,

only 4h ... why? make them lasted 24 houres so we only need to buff 1x eatch day.
...
^^

**orochi3** · Sep 26th, 2015, 08:11:50

yea 24 hours sound better

**Tsuniko** · Sep 26th, 2015, 15:15:23

dark movement
Personal notum harvester
izgimmer's obfuscated recompiler

**Ophiuchus** · Sep 29th, 2015, 11:45:31

Shade buffs! Took my lowbie out for a spin the other day and most of their buffs are still short.

**Tsuniko** · Sep 30th, 2015, 23:24:49

guard convoy
Quantum uncertainty
All levels of umbral wrangler

**Tsuniko** · Oct 17th, 2015, 06:45:24

riot control
superior first aid

**Timba** · Oct 17th, 2015, 09:46:53

Originally Posted by Tsuniko

All levels of umbral wrangler

Simply NO!
This would break the game a bit, transforming the buff into a mandatory 152 AR bonus each TL7 should have. Same for lower levels.
In my opinion, all self buffs should be 4 hours, or longer, while keeping OTHER buffs short. Simply add a User part and Target part to the buff so you get a 4 hour version on yourself, and a much lower timed version on others.

**Baby** · Oct 17th, 2015, 10:39:52

Originally Posted by Timba

Simply add a User part and Target part to the buff so you get a 4 hour version on yourself, and a much lower timed version on others.

That's what Umbral actually is, and I'm pretty sure that's what Tsuniko meant. Umbral lasts 2hrs at the moment (on the Trader!).

Edit: While we're at it, the entire Agent Executioner line should be added to the list.

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