Agents Weapon skills - Blue, Blue and Dark Blue

[Hekthor]

Where is the reason (sense) that our main Weapon skills Rifle (Blue), Aimed Shot (Blue) and Fling Shot (Dark-Blue) are Blue, Blue and Dark Blue?

A Green Fling Shot and Rifle would be nice for IP saveing.

[Tsuniko]

Only if the other parts of agent are balanced first.

[Oliveerz]

You should have your bloody skills completely BLACK, that's how little sympathy i feel for agents right now.

[Hekthor]

Well Very qualified answer! Can't remember that's this post begun with "what's your feeling [...] about

A green fling shot, is in general a decent balance...maybe then we can skill some time&space witch is also dark blue and needed for our nanos.

[Lazy]

where exactly are you short ip that you feel green fling/rifle/as would help?

[Hekthor]

If you skill your Evades (Dodge and EvadeC), Fling and T&S you missing IP for NanoCint, First Aid and Deflect because all these are Dark Blue.
The only way is to keep T&S and Fling very low to rise NanoCint, First Aid and Deflect a bit.
Well after CH nerf, low Evades isnt a option and Fling and T&S is a must have because we need it to Equip our Rifle and Casting our Nanos.

A Green Fling shot would help to get a bit more IP for First Aid or to put more in T&S for more AR on Roots. The Root landing chance is very crap becuase noone can max T&S

[Lazy]

If you skill your Evades (Dodge and EvadeC), Fling and T&S you missing IP for NanoCint, First Aid and Deflect because all these are Dark Blue. The only way is to keep T&S and Fling very low to rise NanoCint, First Aid and Deflect a bit. Well after CH nerf, low Evades isnt a option and Fling and T&S is a must have because we need it to Equip our Rifle and Casting our Nanos.A Green Fling shot would help to get a bit more IP for First Aid or to put more in T&S for more AR on Roots. The Root landing chance is very crap becuase noone can max T&S

are you sure? i just ran the numbers for a 220 trox agent here: http://nano.exofire.net/skills.php and i was able to max all abilities, body dev, nano pool, all evades, nr, runspeed, rifle, as, nano init, comp lit, all nanoskills, treat, first aid, conceal and preception and still had 934930 ips to spare. did i miss anything? this was a super rough eyeballing of ip expenditure at tl7. the only things i didn't put ip into was fling and ranged init but there's enough ip for both of those if you trim on nanoskills and comp lit after twinking into alphas. in short, i don't see what the problem is. or is this for some fancy booster->pe + lava cap swap setup you want to run on top of the already stupidly strong tl7 agent kit? EDIT: i dont mind agents swapping and having access to every special in the game. i mind agents swapping and having access to every special in the game without sacrifice. i feel like there's enough ip for a standard non-swap tl7 setup without sacrifice. hell you could probably make lava caps work as well without sacrifice. if i remember correctly, sharp obj is green for agents?

[Hekthor]

I dont have skilled FA, SA or something... Iam realy sure, cant max the all the skills you sad as Opifex

[Wakizaka]

I really don't have problems with my Agent's IP.
Perhaps I'm "doing it wrong"...



Also, Lazy, Lava Caps are for nubcakes. Tears or gtfo.

[Awikun]

Agent is a perfect profession for any mentally retarded person...
No matter how you distribute your IP you'll still be OP.

[Zwelgje]

I'll support this idea, I had no IP left to properly trade skill 5/5 aruls on my froob @ lvl 135.

On a more serious note, all other professions have a light blue/ green weapon skill for there most favourable weapon-line. My Enf has tons of IP left and a dozen green weapon lines. Enf's where considdered OP at some point. Just because Agents are OP atm, because of obvious reasons, it's not caused because they have tons of IP left. The other part of the toolset should be looked at, nerfed into the ground, but the colour of a favourable weapon line is perfectly open for discussion.

[Shooorty]

Haha those agent hate posts. <3

[Hekthor]

Seriously, if you are to incompetent to respond qualified answers please leave this post.

Awikun, how often do you want to post unqualified facts like this? This isn't a constructive answer. If you want create off-topic then you are wrong here.

Agent don't have tons of IP left. You can't maximize all the basic skills. And the OPness is based on the face that agent have a 100% AR off check.
Please don't mix facts.

[Lazy]

i'm just trying to figure out what it is you're running out of IP for. are you running nr2? are you trimming nanoskills properly? where exactly is the issue that you feel having cheaper fling would help? just ignore awikun. he's neutral so his opinion is irrelevant.

[Le-Quack]

i dont realy see the ip issue either...

[doctorgore]

AR issue and logic issue. A class with a specific weapon that sucks at using it makes lots of sense. Ray Charles would make a good sniper using FC logic.

[Louderer789]

Agent in fact has among the cheapest/highest cap weapon skills and nano skills of any profession, as well as the fewest dark blue skills.

http://www.tem.uoc.gr/~ar1z/skillchart2.html

[Hekthor]

Agent in fact has among the cheapest/highest cap weapon skills and nano skills of any profession, as well as the fewest dark blue skills.

http://www.tem.uoc.gr/~ar1z/skillchart2.html

I don't know how long do you play anarchy online but Opifex agent have darkblue ( stamina, Body def, evade close, dodge, fling, time and space) and agent first have the cheapest ....what are you talking ? The point is, that you need to rise all these skills to Max. In addition to this agent need aswell to Max all nano skills. Do you have any idea how much IP are left if you skilled these? Depending on your answer 100% no! There are to less IP to rise also inits, deflect runspeed, nano resistance because they are BLUE!

[Louderer789]

Use chart, then compare with other professions. Also Rifle and AS are actually cyan, which is basically green in terms of cost already...

[Hekthor]

Use chart, then compare with other professions. Also Rifle and AS are actually cyan, which is basically green in terms of cost already...

Simple example:

Soldier: (ASR 1) (Fling 1) (AS 1.8)
Fixer: (SMG 1) (Fling 1.6) (AS 2.5)
Advy: (Pistol 1) (Fling 1) (AS 2.2)
Agent: (Rifle 1.3) (Fling 3.2) (AS 1.1)

All have his main weapon skill at 1 - why not Agent?
All have not more than 2.5 on second special - Agent habe 3.2 -> why?

Ady uses also Fling + AS in PvP and have less cost to skill these as a agent? I mean Agent is here the main AS profession not advy with his tons of survival and heal....
Soldier the same.. 1 on main Weapon and 1 on Fling and 1.8 on a special second special - kidding me? Again less costs as a Agent.