Viablity of ranged crit setup? Drop out FA completely?

[Timba]

I have just resubbed.

Will look towards getting the few missing damage pieces and updating the auno equips. If I'm lucky I can try this weekend to do some DD in a couple of raids.

Ideally, I'll try to bring some numbers with the top equipment I can get with ranged, and then try switching to melee, as I already have the alpha symbs/items ready.

Stuff I still need:
- Using a 12 crit VTS instead of 15. (+3 crit)
- Still need an Aquarius Multitasker. (+2 crit)
- Need 2 DB Operative Sleeves, got chest (damn cost on them!) (+2 crit)
- Need to swap CotWK with new Dustbrigade operative back ( +2 crit inc / ~+14-15 more damage than CotWK ) or Filtration System (+12 dmg over CotWK)

[Timba]

Did some raids in the last weeks.
Older results for some AI things are at: http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...=1#post6228451

This is a Pande and a 12 man, both with 59% Crit chance, fully buffed, missing only 15 VTS (+12 now), Aq Multitasker (+2 crit) and Operative back / filtration system (some +2 crit or +30ish damage)
http://i.imgur.com/TZUJzbi.png
http://i.imgur.com/c9iWZ8Q.png

Do we have any melee adventurers? Have you ran any raids and found out any numbers? Please share.

I can conclude that the adventurer does some DECENT damage at best, but it cannot seem to go all out for damage like some Engineers or Shades do.

[Wakizaka]

My Advy is still melee, will see if I can find some time to at least do a 12 man run and post some numbers.

[Timba]

@Cratertina
I did some more Punching Bag tests today with my adv and his more damage oriented gear than the last time a few months ago:

2 Minutes on timer for each dump (+/-6s ingame due to dumper ticking):

Reflex Pistol + Peh'wer (1m:56s)

1.  572 733 Timba (220 Adventurer) - 100% of total
70 normal hits, 296 241 dpm
54 hits (77%) were critical hits, being 40% of damage.
0 glancing hits
43 nanohits (114 127 dmg - 19%)
19 Fling Shot (76 242 dmg - 13%)
12 Burst (108 383 dmg - 19%)
Lowest hit: 166 (nano) Highest hit: 10 062 (Burst)

Reflex Pistol + Twitch Pistol (2m:1s)

1.  584 718 Timba (220 Adventurer) - 100% of total
75 normal hits, 289 942 dpm
59 hits (78%) were critical hits, being 43% of damage.
0 glancing hits
47 nanohits (114 954 dmg - 19%)
19 Fling Shot (68 534 dmg - 12%)
13 Burst (100 958 dmg - 17%)
Lowest hit: 166 (nano) Highest hit: 8 220 (Burst)

Twitch Pistol + Peh'wer Pistol (2m:2s)

1.  589 624 Timba (220 Adventurer) - 100% of total
74 normal hits, 289 979 dpm
50 hits (67%) were critical hits, being 36% of damage.
0 glancing hits
48 nanohits (113 682 dmg - 19%)
19 Fling Shot (79 424 dmg - 13%)
13 Burst (114 747 dmg - 19%)
Lowest hit: 166 (nano) Highest hit: 9 668 (Burst)

JEPP + Twitch Pistol (2m:2s)

1.  655 370 Timba (220 Adventurer) - 100% of total
56 normal hits, 322 313 dpm
45 hits (80%) were critical hits, being 26% of damage.
0 glancing hits
50 nanohits (119 567 dmg - 18%)
19 Fling Shot (79 979 dmg - 12%)
11 Full Auto (145 191 dmg - 22%)
13 Burst (111 553 dmg - 17%)
Lowest hit: 166 (nano) Highest hit: 14 876 (Full Auto)

JEPP + Peh'wer Pistol (1m:56s)

1.  581 586 Timba (220 Adventurer) - 91% of total
56 normal hits, 300 820 dpm
42 hits (75%) were critical hits, being 23% of damage.
0 glancing hits
44 nanohits (114 832 dmg - 19%)
18 Fling Shot (64 699 dmg - 11%)
10 Full Auto (130 684 dmg - 22%)
12 Burst (95 725 dmg - 16%)
Lowest hit: 166 (nano) Highest hit: 13 814 (Full Auto)

Some interesting conclusions:
- We MAY be able to drop FA out completely with no significant (+/-5%) DPS/DD loss for casual play. - As you can see from situation 1,2,3 and 5, All 3 combinations of pure Fling/Burst (Reflex+Peh'wer/Reflex+Twitch/Twitch+Peh'wer) were very close to the JEPP+Peh'wer. I assume that in min-dmg situations like SL, for a real focused Fling/Burst Adventurer, they would be on par with the FA adventurer. This means one less button pressed each 11s, not needing to carry Energy ammo, and that annoying sound begone! Plus higher damage if you want to AFK during a raid
- FA + Twitch still seems the go-to for max-damage situations - Non SL or others with high ACs, it still seems to be the perfect choice. I've been swapping Twitch for my RK/AI situations and putting on Peh'wer for SL/others, seems it's still a strong advice to get around 6-7% of a damage increase.
- While changing a few items from +Crit to +Dmg (DB Covering + Goddess boots ( both +1 % ), to CC legs/boots), and adding +20ish I miss from Alpha Artillery wrists (I took Support), I'm pretty sure I may be able to do 15.000 FA damage, somewhat reliably at least when buffs are up. Feels an accomplishment being able to do 15.000 FA damage as an Adv!

All tests were completed in Cat Form, with MOP + Coffee, sitting at 59% Critical increase with a Added to Poison Damage Total: 1067 points in +dmg gear. I am not sure if it is the high dmg/crit gear that allows this small difference between tries, or if it is scalable linearly for lower gear levels, but at least now I know what to do if I want to AFK damage!

I need to do more testing in real situations with the FA thing, maybe we won't need to rely on the FA pistol IF other areas are properly buffed.

[appolonia]

Is there a way to get even more +DD ? Without your setup I don't feel to sort the DB to check ;p

Would love to get melee numbers too, though with the /follow nerf I feel dust won't be cleaned off my hatreds soon ^^

[Timba]

The only items I lack are:
- 15 % VTS instead of my 12% VTS (+3% crit)
- Aquarius Multitask Calculator, instead of the Stellar Adventurer Nanodeck (+2% crit, but I can't hot-buff Poisonous Bite mid combat, if I get unmorphed)
- Back item, DB Filtration System (+12 dmg), or Covering: (~+14 dmg diff from 2% crit-18dmg from Cotwlk)

If I am to MAX dd, at massive cost of other things (Evades, no more hotswapping to PvP, Can't self buff morphs without hotswapping, etc), I can add the following:
- Berkerker Implant (+90dmg)
- Exterminator Occular Enhancement (+3%Crit)
- 2x Artillery Wrists instead of my Support (+19 damage)

So it is a pretty endgame representative setup. I prefer my flexibility by not going for trade-offs, it takes me 2 minutes to fully hotswap from PvM DD ready to PVP ready, if needed.

[appolonia]

Would love to know if double +energy on Dchest is just a typo btw ^^ Twitch should have come with a larger crit mod, like Harry's 44 or something, a real smokin' gun, instead of the kinda weird xp buff.

Calc instead of deck sounds creepy indeed. Being soli helps me with the eoe and I play l33t mainly, but as ranged I'm eventually for as much +DD as possible ; berserker... wish I could hotswap it !

Thx Timba, you got as close as possible to our max dd setup. You didn't overthrow anything but this question deserved some clearing, and adv some love - if AO was to come back to life =)

[Timba]

Half-a-year bump!

The Dchest isn't a typo, as it does give double energy bonuses.