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    Dpm difference at 220

    Hello,
    I m new on MP toon(lvl 160 atm), i read many old post( dont know if still up to date)

    I wish to know about dpm on Bow,asp,1blunt xan,pistol and MA MP?

    Some build are easier/cheaper to play at 200-220 in dpm/survability?

    How s new Rihwen dpm at each tier?

    Now Mp debuff make a difference in raid ? ( team invite love?)

    Thanks for your help

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    My mp is 1hb,i love it and The perks are all fun too. And i get to hotswap between asp and zset with xan abandonment in offhand (iirc) which is Nice survivability /Ex bowman
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    Hey mate!
    to give you a little insight in the Rihwen differences i have some data:
    http://i.imgur.com/PNwWDxJ.png
    i believe fight took 3min? i dont know anymore..
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    Quote Originally Posted by immortalis View Post
    Nice comparison! Was this data obtained recently, e.g. after the T3 nerf?

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    Is that on a punching bag with 0 ac?
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    that was on 21.03.06 and ya on punching bag
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    As far as raw data has be collected and i've reviewed it from org and friends. the 223 pet, and the 225 pet, is 7% difference. from 220 to 225, it is 19%
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    Dpm at 220 on mp

    Hello

    Thanks for info about Rihwen.

    Someone have done few test about weapon dd?
    1blunt, pistol, MA, 2 blunt, bow?

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    If you want the best MP DD, you want pistols with bigburger offhand and some combo of gear that allows both T2 Rihwen with minimal swapping/OSB while wielding Peh'wer with a decent burst recharge. Whether that's actually possible, I wouldn't doubt it, but I haven't done the theorycrafting myself.

    Failing that, it seems dual lust and MA are very close, then 1hb/bow close to each other but lower than pistol/MA, then 2hb. At least from what I've seen.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by speedycrate View Post
    I wish to know about dpm on Bow,asp,1blunt xan,pistol and MA MP?

    Some build are easier/cheaper to play at 200-220 in dpm/survability?
    If you want maximum dpm, then pistols are probably your best bet. MA might be decent as well, but melee has its downsides. If you want a balanced mix between dpm and survivability, however, then 1hb is a solid option. You can easily swap weapons and shields to adapt to the situation: 2 weapons for max dpm, 2 shields for max survivability, or 1 weapon and 1 shield for a bit of both.

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    Does the pet buff from having the redfire staff equipped close the gap at all between 1hb and 2hb?

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    Used to always be 1HB > 2HB even accounting for the 300 AAO on pet.
    BUT that was before the 10%+ in extra crit on new gear so you could prolly close some of the DPM gap but 1HB has a full perkline going for it now so a retesting is your best bet to know for sure.

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    my mp was pistol and did high dpm, specialy from 207 when he got on 2x xan pistols on.
    i done 1hb, bow and ma on test, but pistol did outdamage those setups by a good amount

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    how many dpm should expect with 2 x asp build vs lust or bow build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xayle View Post
    Does the pet buff from having the redfire staff equipped close the gap at all between 1hb and 2hb?
    You don't need to use that specific weapon to use the buffs. The requirement is any creaton weapon. Thats why I've decided on 2x Asps.

    I'm still working on my asp/T3 Riwhen MP. Wanna self the Riwhen, and I don't think I'll be able/bothered to equip dual abandonments.

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    abandonment+asp + buffs on pets = closes the gap between between t2 and t3 to almost nothing, there SEEMS to be a cap on t3 so the diff really is small when buffed t2 with creation +300ar.
    Go search post of about when Rihwen got hotted up for exact numbers.

    x2 asp or x1 abandonment + 1 asp is still 1200 mr.
    1200 mr is good for swapping high ql phulaks as well, besides wearing a weapon that enables you to case creation buff also enables the healpet with a furthre 12% heal eff, and the mezzpet to have +80 nano ar iirc. ofc you have to do those 3 quest to get all the pets hotted up, but i'de at least recommend heal buff and ar buff on the greeny. cm'ing the mezzpet is usually nuff i think.
    Last edited by nanoforcer; May 7th, 2016 at 08:17:22.
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    Whats the trick for getting 1200 MultiM? I'm ~922 at the moment but really have not done anything specific to buff it up

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    Custom imps rwrist and some cm iirc, account not active atm ☺️
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