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Thread: Make Deceit of the Xan our top tier weapon

  1. #1

    Make Deceit of the Xan our top tier weapon

    As of right now, Improved Hacked Medi-Blade is THE best piercing weapon at 220. It has higher min-damage, higher max-damage than Deceit of the Xan and +50 Sneakattack. And not to forget the 100%-"healproc" on each hit.

    It's way easier obtainable than Deceit (Kill enough level 215-gimpy prisoners (which can be done solo from 210, and probably earlier) vs. kill The Beast and kill Deranged Xan (which both requires a team))

    My suggestion is to make a tradeskill to merge them, i.e. "Improved Hacked Medi-Blade" + "Deceit of the Xan" = "Duplicity of the Xan" (or better name-suggestions)

    Should look something like this:

    Code:
    Duplicity of the Xan
    NODROP 
    Rarity: Unknown
    Quality level: 300
    Requirements:
    Wield:
    
    On Self:
      Must have expansionset: Legacy of the Xan and 
      TitleLevel from 6 and 
      Dimach from 501 and 
      Fast Attack from 1156 and 
      Sneak Atck from 1156 and 
      Piercing from 2301
    
    Damage: 315-360(500)
    Speed:
    Attack 1.00s
    Recharge 1.00s
    Equip delay: 3.00s
    Initiative: Melee Weapons Initiative
    Location: RightHand LeftHand 
    Range: 2m
    Dual wield: Mult. Melee 1750
    Special: SneakAttack FastAttack 
    Max beneficial skill: 2750
    Attack skills: Piercing 100% 
    Defence skills: Evade-ClsC 100% 
    Modifier:
    On User:
      Modify Max Health 300
      Modify Add All Def. 15
      Modify Add All Off. 15
      Modify Sneak Atck 50
    
    Damage type: Melee/ma AC
    Description:
    It gives new impressions.
    
    The Deceit of the Xan has been tweaked to a higher performance.
    Slightly upped the req's to wield, tuned "recharge" back to 1 sec from 1.25, merged modifiers (and of course it should maintain the healproc with same modifier (50-150)) Also; the weaponmesh of the "Duplicity of the Xan" should of course be the same as that of the "Deceit of the Xan"
    Last edited by Jihnna; Jul 14th, 2016 at 11:48:57. Reason: Added info on weaponmesh.
    Jihnna 220/30/80 Shade
    Underworld

  2. #2
    Considdering the medi blade is only possible in one hand.
    I think its perfectly reasonable, the way it is currently.

    If anything the medi blade should be nerfed down a bit, so the deceit is automaticly the top go-to choice.
    First NT to proper pocket Ely hecks - Raesun

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelil View Post
    Considdering the medi blade is only possible in one hand.
    I think its perfectly reasonable, the way it is currently.

    If anything the medi blade should be nerfed down a bit, so the deceit is automaticly the top go-to choice.
    wat? You wanna nerf one weapon to bring out the other one more? Seems dumb to me.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelil View Post
    Considdering the medi blade is only possible in one hand.
    I think its perfectly reasonable, the way it is currently.
    You might check the way it is currently...

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelil View Post
    Considdering the medi blade is only possible in one hand.
    I think its perfectly reasonable, the way it is currently.

    If anything the medi blade should be nerfed down a bit, so the deceit is automaticly the top go-to choice.
    You obviously have no clue... First of all, Improved Hacked Medi-Blade is dualwieldable with itself, it has been that way since Patch 18.7.0. Second of all, it is by no means OP the way it is now, nor will it be with the modifications that I suggested. Third; this follows (almost) the same ideas as Abandonment/Lust/Gluttony.
    Jihnna 220/30/80 Shade
    Underworld

  6. #6
    However way you choose to look at it. Shades are in a super great place at the moment weapon wise and else. And i still dont think its a good idea, to buff even further.

    Considdering how silly easy the medi blade is to get, the xan should be a obvious better choice.
    Hence the nerfing to the medi blade. Or make it require some extra steps.
    First NT to proper pocket Ely hecks - Raesun

  7. #7
    Easy enough to fix, just change Improved medi-blade damage to 275-350 (450).


  8. #8
    Nope !

    *thread closed*
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  9. #9
    YUP!

    *Thread reopened*
    Jihnna 220/30/80 Shade
    Underworld

  10. #10
    Yeah Just nerf medi blade damage, or give it higher crits and lower minimum damage. Make it more fun like say 235-475(500).

    In any case until heal proc is removed, my shade will wield them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Michizure View Post
    This'll be fixed for the next patch

  11. #11
    The idea is to make a xan/beast-weapon our top weapon, not some ridicuously easily obtainable RK-weapon.
    Jihnna 220/30/80 Shade
    Underworld

  12. #12
    No! *thread redirected*

    Xanify the Spear of Forbidden Ceremonies instead.

    Make the damage 435-900 (165), remove riposte/deflect req because theres no reason behind it. Bring the speed to 1.4/1.4. Make the reqs similar to the Gan'kar rifle.

  13. #13
    I would love for Spear of Forbidden Ceremonies to be top tier again, I loved that look on shades and it always reminds me of the old pvp videos and how crazy shade damage was compared to every other class. Making it similar to the gan'kar rifle would be amazing!
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