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Start logging of "Marlark" at 05/25/02 23:12:09
23:20: [Marlark] Marlark: welcome everyone
23:20: [Marlark] Securite: welcome
23:20: [Marlark] Graios: hi
23:21: [Marlark] Millenko: welcome
23:21: [Marlark] Kasimodo: Hello to all that I did not greet already
23:21: Ermintrude: can we leave the talking to the guy standing, or we'll be 'helloing' all night
23:21: [Marlark] Marlark: this is the first of the meetings over the lines the meeting is intended to make RK2 to the event place to be ..
23:21: [Marlark] Securite: hello ermin
23:22: [Marlark] Marlark: ok there are some rules for this meeting
23:22: [Marlark] Marlark: the one that is standing up talkes when i have given the word to tha person
23:23: [Marlark] Marlark: and one more thing .. this is a total OOC meeting that mean no RP
23:24: [Marlark] Marlark: well if u want to talk stand up and ill tell u in the order in talking and so on..
23:24: [Marlark] Kasimodo: k
23:25: [Marlark] Marlark: ok then ... first of all .. i know almost everyone have seen the event calender that FC have rel.
23:25: [Marlark] Lawbinder: ehhh I havent whare can I find it ?
23:26: [Marlark] Marlark: the event calender is a Player event calender
23:26: [Marlark] Quool: http://ark.anarchy-online.com/calend...m_yr=&fm_mnth=
23:27: [Marlark] Lawbinder: thank you
23:27: [Marlark] Marlark: yup like that there is a simpler way to get to the calender
23:27: [Marlark] Graios: it's on one of the opening client screens
23:27: [Marlark] Marlark: a couple of weeks we started a Guildleaders site for RK2
23:30: [Marlark] Marlark: ok then the aoguildleaders site is located on www.aoguildleaders.org
23:30: [Marlark] Marlark: it is only for rk2 dimention
23:31: [Marlark] Marlark: ok next thing then .. this meeting is only about one thing today and that is events for rk2 .. so lets get down to it.. is there anything planned that aint on the calender that the orgs are planning .. or so..?
23:32: [Marlark] Marlark: ok Jimmysav u got the floor
23:33: [Marlark] Jimmysav: to start with, good meeting idea
23:33: [Marlark] Jimmysav: well done
23:33: [Marlark] Jimmysav: my main concern tho, is RP and events MUST be co-ordinated with FC, or they are pointless... cos they "acheive" nothing in the game wolrd
23:34: [Marlark] Jimmysav: they have no "impact" without FC being involved
23:35: [Marlark] Jimmysav: so far, has nay1 ever been able to interact with FC?
23:35: [Marlark] Graios: yes
23:35: [Marlark] Marlark: i can anwer on that one i think
23:35: [Marlark] Kasimodo: yes
23:35: [Marlark] Graios: if you use e-mail or petition, you can contact ARK who will contact FC
23:36: [Marlark] Jimmysav: belive me i have many times
23:36: [Marlark] Marlark: ok FC atm or the ARK do not support any player based events that we our self make.. they at times make their own events for us.. but they dont tell us when and where they are..
23:36: [Marlark] Jimmysav: email& in game
23:36: [Marlark] Graios: contacting the RBC tends to help as it gives you publicity
23:37: [Marlark] Graios: we don't however need an ARK
23:37: [Marlark] Jimmysav: + been in conatct with cosmik
23:37: [Marlark] Graios: now, since we're only organising
23:37: [Marlark] Jimmysav: + had a GM at a meeting
23:37: [Marlark] Marlark: if u ask ark for help on something for a event or something u get a macro in your head saying something we dont support this atm bla bla
23:37: [Marlark] Jimmysav: but so far no feedbak
23:37: [Marlark] Graios: you guys used e-mail?
23:38: [Marlark] Intra: yes
23:38: [Marlark] Graios: it worked for me
23:38: [Marlark] Marlark: yup
23:38: [Marlark] Ermintrude: yes email works - but we'll go round in circles until we sort this speaking thing out
23:38: [Marlark] Ermintrude: one at a time please
23:38: [Marlark] Ermintrude: Marlark - you call the speakers please?
23:38: [Marlark] Marlark: yup i do ..
23:38: [Marlark] Graios: it seems civilised enough at the moment
23:39: [Marlark] Ermintrude: Jimmysav was halfway through something i believe?
23:39: [Marlark] Jimmysav: yes.... my point is
23:39: [Marlark] Jimmysav: we can pretend to do stuff in game....... but nothing we do will have any impact and will therefore generally be pointless
23:40: [Marlark] Marlark: i c your point.. Jimmysav problem is that we cant wait on FC or ark to get something of the ground..
23:40: [Marlark] Jimmysav: marlark, thats why this meeting is good, but i still think FC is the key
23:40: [Marlark] Marlark: ok Graios u got the floor then
23:40: [Marlark] Jimmysav: ok my point is done
23:41: [Marlark] Graios: thank you, I have a few points
23:41: [Marlark] Graios: first, on Jimmy's point, if you apply enough pressure on FC, they will respond
23:42: [Marlark] Graios: this meeting is useful for the org leaders, but we can all go off and talk to FC ourselves individually
23:42: [Marlark] Graios: now my main point
23:42: [Marlark] Graios: I have an event which I hope this meeting will help publicise
23:43: [Marlark] Graios: My clan is organising a protest march
23:43: [Marlark] Graios: and we need some other clans involved
23:43: [Marlark] Graios: and we need a location
23:44: [Marlark] Marlark: what is the protest about Graios sins i dont think the omni leaders here know that
23:44: [Marlark] Foxide: Can I just jump in and ask.. in protest of what?
23:44: [Marlark] Graios: I need to know anyone who wants to join in with this. My clan is thinking of using Newland as the location but we want somewhere nearer to OT
23:45: [Marlark] Graios: it's against the opresseive restrictions and the non-democratic ruling of this planet
23:45: [Marlark] Eclypsedmoon: ty
23:45: [Marlark] Graios: eg. the "Behave!" and "Be good" signs
23:45: [Marlark] Graios: and, craziest of all, a "No Running" sign in your own apartment
23:45: [Marlark] Graios: that is not freedom
23:46: [Marlark] Sebuda: .err 1984
23:46: [Marlark] Graios: exactly
23:46: [Marlark] Graios: the party, the Ministry of truth
23:46: [Marlark] Marlark: well we could do it like this for u Graios .. and that would be to put it up on the Aoguildleaders website and have the orgs that want to come with u send in messages to u ..
23:46: [Marlark] Graios: they might as well be signs saying "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength"
23:46: Ermintrude: yep we've read the book - this is pretty RP and not too much use to half the people here though :/
23:47: [Marlark] Graios: thank you
23:47: [Marlark] Graios: a date has not been fixed though
23:47: [Marlark] Saved: may i speak
23:47: [Marlark] Graios: sure
23:47: [Marlark] Saved: this is a clan, anti Omni rally
23:47: [Marlark] Marlark: ok lets get back to this again in a moment Graios
23:47: [Marlark] Sebuda: Ikia has also ask to speek
23:49: [Marlark] Ikia: I had two ideas for events that would work for all parties, not just clan or omni.
23:49: [Marlark] Ikia: or neutral as the case may be.
23:50: [Marlark] Ikia: 1.) A tournament. Folks enjoy PvP, why not organize a tournament somewhere for folks to compete.
23:50: [Marlark] Graios: hear hear
23:51: [Marlark] Ikia: 2.) A guild fair. This could be held in some place like Newland where all guilds can gather and let people who are looking for a guild ask membres what the guild is like.
23:51: [Marlark] Ikia: Give them a chance to find out about a lot all at once and have more information for a decision.
23:52: [Marlark] Ikia: And that's all I have for ideas right now.
23:52: [Marlark] Ikia: thanks
23:53: [Marlark] Marlark: ok then think saved had his hand up first there after ikia
23:54: [Marlark] Saved: Ok i have 1 comment on the graios event, and one about funcom
23:54: [Marlark] Saved: Fist is that if the clans have an event posted as a protest, the omni factions can use that to counter rally for support and have something built off it
23:55: [Marlark] Saved: Just because it doesn't look like both sides have part, we have to make it
23:55: [Marlark] Saved: this leads to my second part,
23:55: [Marlark] Saved: Funcom has said that people on rubi2 have disdained events and hasn't shown up to them
23:56: [Marlark] Saved: even when we petition, send e-mails, and get an ark/gm to show up and leave
23:56: [Marlark] Saved: this might get me banned, but i think it is something i need to do
23:56: [Marlark] Saved: i was in the ark program
23:57: [Marlark] Saved: they don't do much with rubi 2
23:57: [Marlark] Saved: for most arks are Rubi 1 players
23:57: [Marlark] Saved: It is something they are changing
23:57: [Marlark] Saved: we have to start doing events for them to do them
23:57: [Marlark] Saved: otherwise we won't
23:57: [Marlark] Saved: (end)
23:58: [Marlark] Millenko: i always thought that there were arks for each dimension
23:58: [Marlark] Saved: and you can report me maybe you will get an ark here
23:58: [Marlark] Marlark: ok Kasimodo u got the floor
23:58: [Marlark] Kasimodo: okay, I had a brief contact with FC on events
23:59: [Marlark] Kasimodo: an ark, then a gm
23:59: [Marlark] Kasimodo: gm told me to mail them
23:59: [Marlark] Kasimodo: I even got an answer, they requested me to post some plot
23:59: [Marlark] Kasimodo: then I never heared again from them
00:00: [Marlark] Jimmysav: lol, exactly
00:00: [Marlark] Intra: yup
00:00: [Marlark] Kasimodo: though their request included an advisory that there's normally no support for player events
00:01: [Marlark] Kasimodo: they told me to make players act as NCSs
00:01: [Marlark] Greylupin: ops
00:01: [Marlark] Kasimodo: so I gave up hoping for FC to support us
00:02: [Marlark] Kasimodo: <end>
00:02: [Marlark] Marlark: ok then Shazian got the floor
00:02: [Marlark] Shazian: Oki I had some comments on things here that was said earlier..
00:03: [Marlark] Shazian: First of, i think this is a great thing to do, it shows initiative from our side as well to FC
00:03: [Marlark] Shazian: Other thing, i dont think the solution is that each and everyone of us indivitually contacts FC
00:04: [Marlark] Shazian: We need to do it as a group, put a heck of alot more weight behind it
00:04: [Marlark] Shazian: That might make it alot more intresting to FC as well that we as a group both clan and omni stands together behind this
00:05: [Marlark] Shazian: instead of alot of indivituals keeps mailing FC about this.
00:07: [Marlark] Shazian: I think thats pretty much it on that issue there, i think we will get alot more outta this if we as a group stands together on this towards FC, hence this meeting, than indivitual guild leaders will do
00:08: [Marlark] Shazian: The other thing here i think that was a great idea was the guild fair thing
00:09: [Marlark] Shazian: But this is something that guild leaders on all sides can take with them back and discuss amoung them, and we can come together again soon to get something together for FC
00:10: [Marlark] Shazian: LIke i said, i think we can get alot more done as a group with the events than as indivituals
00:10: [Marlark] Shazian: end