The twinkers guide to dual gelids on a 170 doc

[Dezmathio]

I was reading on this forum, that you couldn't equip dual gelids on a doc, before 190.
I can't remember who wrote it, but I thought I'd take up the challenge.

These calculations are based on the Solitus breed. Opi and Atrox will be added later.
Nanomages look here (curtesy of Futen)

So, without further delay - I give you:

The twinkers guide to equipping dual gelids on a 170 doc.

First some general notes:

Base skills, with maxed abilities:
1 Hand Edged: 619
Fast Attack: 619
Multi Melee: 569

Overview over the stuff you need:
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Items:
- implant set used
- Guardian conductor of Learning used.
- Achromic Ring for the Support Unit (from Ergo, when you go to Adonis)
- QL 150ish Combat Fighter's Manual of Skill

Buffs:
- Essense of Behemoth
- Feline Grace
- Enhanced Senses
- Iron Circle
- Composite Attributes (1 hour)
- Composite Melee Expertise (1 hour)
- Composite Physical Special Expertise (1 hour)

Other:
3 extra perk points (start resetting, if you don't have this )


And now, for the calculations:

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1HE. Goal = 1049
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619 base TL5 cap.

Hard effects:
+ 210 from implants
+ 20 from expertise
+ 132 from wrangle
+ 30 from Guardian Conductor of learning
+ 3 from Close Combat Fighter's Manual of Skill (pretty easy to get, drops e.g. in Ely redeemed temple)

Trickle effects:
+ 3 from composite abilities
+ 4.05 from Behe
+ 3 from Iron Circle
+ 2.5 from Feline Grace
+ 11 from Agil implants
+ 4.125 from Strength implants
+ 6.6 from Stam implants
+ 0.3 from Adonis ring

Total = 1048,575

Throw in some sekutek armor, or whatever - if you didn't get the round-up effect from this.
Also, there's lots of items that adds 1he skill, that I haven't used when twinking.
You can add these items in, if you can't get a ql 200 tower up.

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Fast attack. Goal = 909
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619 base TL5 cap.

Hard effects:
+ 210 from implants
+ 20 from expertise
+ 30 from Guardian Conductor of Learning

Trickle effects:
+ 3 from composite abilities
+ 1.5 from Enhanced Senses
+ 3.75 from Feline Grace
+ 16.5 from Agil implants
+ 5.5 from Sense implants

Total = 909.25

Now, gelids are no fun, if you can't wear 2 of them - so we need to add some Multi Melee.

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Multi Melee. Goal = 904
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569 base TL5 cap.

Hard effects:
+ 210 from implants
+ 30 from Guardian Conductor of Learning
+ 45 from 3 perks in Ambidextrous
+ 20 from Expertise

Trickle effects:
+ 3 from composite attributes
+ 2.7 from Behe
+ 2 from Iron Circle
+ 3.75 from Feline Grace
+ 16.5 from Agil implants
+ 4.125 from Strength implants
+ 2.2 from Stamina implants

Total = 908,275


So... There you go, you can equip dual Gelids on a doc pretty early - at least earlier than the level 190 I was reading about on this forum...

As a final note, I realize not everyone can place a QL 200 Guardian of Learning, but anything goes here really.
I didn't use much armor, for adding skills, so with a lesser tower - and some more added skills from armor, you can still do this.

Also, I wasn't able to get these myself (Neleb was dead every time I tried... lol) - but Gentle hands that drops from Neleb, in Steps of Madness adds 4 to 1he. That could be a helping hand too (pun intented ).

Some of my raw notes, if you wanna read them:


chart | str | sta | agi | sense
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1 HE | 30% | 30% | 40% | 00%
Fast A| 00% | 00% | 60% | 40%
Mult.M| 30% | 10% | 60% | 00%

Trickle rule is 25%.


behe 27 str/sta = 4.05 1he, 2.7 mm
ic 20 str/sta = 3 1he, 2 mm
es 15 sense = 1.5 fa
fg 25 agil = 3,75 fa, 3,75 mm, 2.5 1he

perks (ambi lev. 3) = 45 mm

Guardian conductor of learning = 30 1he, 30 fa, 30 mm

agil, str, sta, sense imps:
agil = 16.5 fa, 16.5 mm, 11 1he
str = 4.125 1he, 4.125 mm
sense = 5.5 fa
sta = 6.6 1he, 2.2 mm

[edit: added a link to the tower I used ]

[Gralmuph]

Nice post Brasonte
Good Job on it

[poooseidon]

ah i didn't even think of a tower when putting mine on!

duel gelids are possible even at the tl5 cap, which is about 165ish, i think?

i didn't have a tower to use so what i used is a full set of bootleggers armor, left sleeve of pest, petticoat of pest, teardrop rings, 4 perks in ambidex and a sekutek helmet 3 or 4x vanya pearls

i looked pretty wierd with all that on ;p

[Disq]

great post but hmm well tower part is kinda makes it not a avalibe choice for everyone :/

but I like the calculation you maded

[Dezmathio]

Originally posted by Disquast
great post but hmm well tower part is kinda makes it not a avalibe choice for everyone :/

but I like the calculation you maded

There's plenty of alternatives to the tower, like I wrote - anything goes.

Cama perl of right brain (I think it is), also adds some mod's, and a lotta other nice stuff does too.

Even a low QL tower helps towards the goal.

[Ynge]

Nice guide

For 1HE theres this item
http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=157682 - the sharp star backpack,
it can be bought in the container shops in adv/sup shops
adds 5 1he if you equip it

[Regidoc]

There's also bootleggers armor. A "full" set of that (minus sleeve since it's unique) might get you another 20 in 1HE

[Letah]

Added it to my "links" post.

[Azazzel]

should the stats be the same for any nanomage?

[Dezmathio]

Originally posted by Azazzel
should the stats be the same for any nanomage?

Good point!

I failed to write, that this was for solitus...

I can do an appendix on other breeds when I get home from work today, if there's an interest for it?

[Onlymeh]

Good job bras

Kinda brings up ideas, never thought MM would be this easy..

[Onlymeh]

Not to mention, this could prolly work for other profs too since there's nothing "doc" related really

[Dezmathio]

Originally posted by Onlymeh
Good job bras

Kinda brings up ideas, never thought MM would be this easy..

MM is *very* easy, there's even items that buffs this skill, but you don't really need them, when you got perks.

Originally posted by Onlymeh
Not to mention, this could prolly work for other profs too since there's nothing "doc" related really

Indeed - this can be done by any solitus, of any profession at the TL5 cap.
But then again, you wouldn't really need gelids, if you where a level 170 agent - now would you...

[Blondenurse]

very nice thread.

[WaterBamsen]

You hit OT Bartender for 877 points of cold damage.
You hit OT Bartender for 1316 points of Fast Attack damage.
Unable to perform action, Fast Attack skill is locked, able in 00:00:12
Wait for your previous special attack to complete.
You hit OT Bartender for 880 points of cold damage.
Unable to perform action, Fast Attack skill is locked, able in 00:00:11
You were healed for 20 points.
You hit OT Bartender for 646 points of cold damage.
You hit OT Bartender with nanobots for 960 points of cold damage.


GELIDS ON!!! 197 trox doc

[Regidoc]

EW, thread necromancy. This one is 2 years old.

[Blondenurse]

Grats with gelids I have a Penumbra Tuaq... +25 to cold dmg in util slot

[nerfman]

necromancy ftw

[nerfman]

now do it on a lvl 130 doc ...

[Meloniez]

any chance of working out the dead links? maybe be old but would still be helpful to me..177 trox doc looking to get on gelids