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Thread: Friday with Means - March 11th, 2011: Full Steam Ahead

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastablasta View Post
    Still runs at 100 FPS here at max everything when using the DX9 renderpath.
    The systems in question primarily use ATi 4250 integrated graphics chipsets(very common in newer laptops) - 15-20 fps on medium and with AA turned off - perfectly suitable for those peoples' gameplay experience. The point was it should never had gone -backwards- in performance moving to the new engine iteration.
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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcore View Post
    I would love ao to support when having two monitors, you run ao on one moniter, and be ABLE to move your mouse and click on the second monitor without shutting down/minimizing AO client, would be awesome.
    I have 4 monitors and do this now....
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  3. #63
    Excellent post Means, thanks.

    Now I feel like a jerk for predicting that this week's FwM would boil down to "We still have the 'flu"
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  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by -Stage- View Post
    Excellent post Means, thanks.

    Now I feel like a jerk for predicting that this week's FwM would boil down to "We still have the 'flu"
    I can safely tell you that you are in fact a jerk, not just for stated reason though. :P
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  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Dagget View Post
    The systems in question primarily use ATi 4250 integrated graphics chipsets(very common in newer laptops) - 15-20 fps on medium and with AA turned off - perfectly suitable for those peoples' gameplay experience. The point was it should never had gone -backwards- in performance moving to the new engine iteration.
    and i seem to remember Means mentioning that the old AO Client will still be available, so for AO this will not be an issue.
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  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Dagget View Post
    The point was it should never had gone -backwards- in performance moving to the new engine iteration.
    this would be preferable, but you cant really expect all updates everywhere to have only positive impact on the matter :P
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  7. #67
    Bloody great FWM!
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  8. #68
    Wow, probably the best FWM i have read in ages. I find my faith in this game somewhat restored.

    Imo the advertising Should be exciting news to all as it shores up AO financially.
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  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Dagget View Post
    The systems in question primarily use ATi 4250 integrated graphics chipsets(very common in newer laptops) - 15-20 fps on medium and with AA turned off - perfectly suitable for those peoples' gameplay experience. The point was it should never had gone -backwards- in performance moving to the new engine iteration.
    The owner of a system using a Radeon 4250 integrated graphics processor should never consider playing a high profile game in the first place.

    And since they can't play AoC anymore they can come play AO since the new engine will be a matter of choice here. Though I know the Radeon 3000 integrated is incapable of playing AO at highest settings. The 4250 is not considerably more powerful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neista View Post
    Imo the advertising Should be exciting news to all as it shores up AO financially.
    I found this perhaps the most exciting part of the post. But maybe that's just me :|
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  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastablasta View Post
    The owner of a system using a Radeon 4250 integrated graphics processor should never consider playing a high profile game in the first place.

    And since they can't play AoC anymore they can come play AO since the new engine will be a matter of choice here. Though I know the Radeon 3000 integrated is incapable of playing AO at highest settings. The 4250 is not considerably more powerful.
    They tested the waters in AoC some months ago with the new hardware and got satisfactory performance (15-25 fps on medium with no major dips). Had the performance sucked while running the free trial, they would had said "oh, well, perhaps in the future". As it was ok, they signed up and are paying customers. My own system has that same chipset at its' heart and it did well for me, but I have since added in a 460GTX. My friends will someday afford superior add-in graphics cards (except the laptops) but the crux of this is that the performance practically halved with the introduction of the Dreamworld patch plus added in a lot of really bad graphic artifacts which are also seen by a variety of other chipsets. That shouldn't happen.

    They already play AO, many since 2004. Eve, Lotro, and SWG all handle the 4250 well, btw.

    In any case, the coders are working on the issue and we will see what they produce.
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  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrangeline View Post
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  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Riawn View Post
    Coming next week: Friday with Ergo!
    If they put that in the title I think it would about 4 views and zero comments.

  13. #73
    I just rerad the interview with VHab and I dare to Quote..

    Vhab: Quite a bit. It's much more personal for me now. Before it was a game where I was part of the community; now I feel part of the game itself. Knowing there’s some of my work in there that thousands of players can enjoy is absolutely amazing.
    Ditto feelings from me, and I have not met the AO team 'yet'. But I will soon(tm)

    I profusely enjoyed this FWM.. LoL Sorry I had to let that out, or I would have burst!

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  14. #74
    Well, if AO is becoming less friendly to people who use laptops or "super market" desktop because of new graphics engine that might not be a good thing.

  15. #75

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    Crow: The new engine will of course require more than the existing one. Good thing though, they will keep both editions.
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  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Alternity View Post
    Bloody great FWM!
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  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Isvarte View Post
    Crow: The new engine will of course require more than the existing one. Good thing though, they will keep both editions.
    Both clients would work something like half an year max whole year. Old client won't be here forever.
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  18. #78
    Been playing AO since 2002 on various PC configuration. So far, BEST performance (I mean tested places, crowded, max setup) was on nVidia 8600 GTS - no other graphic card or setup above Intel 2.4ghz never did better. When my 6800 was broken (in that time I had smooth 22-25 FPS) i bought new PC (in 2008) and out of sudden I was able to run game on MAX seup, at 60 FPS in Borealis at top hour. That was stunning, really. Then, not so long ago (in 2010) my GC went emo, and I was forced to get new one. GTX250DP Does miracles in most games, but... AO runs at 20 FPS max, and when its crowd (like BS hub or Grid) it gets to 8-10 FPS.

    Not mention, that back in 2002/3 game ran smooth on top machines, but it was on old textures, and yet it was possible to get 45 FPS on ultra crowded Tir. So basicly, best PC from my expeirance to play AO smooth is somewhat 2007/2008 config with modern processor, or to get uber new GC and wait for new engine. Either way, everyone will be happy


    EDIT: Best FWM since ages. I will consider to unfroze accounts, when I get some Screens/Vids of new Engine
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  19. #79
    So did anyone die from having to wait a week?

    The armour looks nice, so far it looks like just a clean up, clearer lines and more defined depth etc, the question is are you going to be redoing some of the really dumb looking armour like crat/trader tier?
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  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayria
    The armour looks nice, so far it looks like just a clean up, clearer lines and more defined depth etc, the question is are you going to be redoing some of the really dumb looking armour like crat/trader tier?
    For the love of God make Clan Agent Tier 3 black or something.

    Not that anyone wears it anymore.

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