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Thread: Monthly Development Update, 1st July 2013

  1. #121
    it's not a new game, getting as many players (paid or froob) in the beta is gonna cut down on how long it needs beta testing. the whole point of beta testing is to find all the bugs and issues, the more people testing the better.
    limiting it to current paid, or loyal players is a bad idea, I doubt there are enough paid players that would beta test. allowing all current paid and froob in the beta will provide the most diverse hardware array for testing.
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  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Traderjill View Post
    Yes, its a beta test.. the expectation is that it's not working 100%. Some people don't care for beta testing but those that would be interested in doing so should be given the opportunity. And.. please keep in mind that someone that isn't currently paid isn't necessarily some old player that hasn't been around in years. I took a 9 month leave myself, but that doesn't mean I wasn't keeping up with what was going on in the game or that I was out of date in any way.

    And, again, don't forget the froob AO population that would be excluded if only paid players were issued beta invites.



    Historically, the best time to discuss something is way before funcom does it with the hopes they take some of the chatter into consideration when making decisions.
    Since when did saying something was beta make people accept that it wasn't bugfree? But then, that's why you have a "closed" beta, to iron out the worst kink by using fewer testers, in order to expose the issues to the fewest users before pushing it live.
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  3. #123
    Wait, is beta's not supposed to be bug free !? Someone ought to tell the internet forums!

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastablasta View Post
    Since when did saying something was beta make people accept that it wasn't bugfree? But then, that's why you have a "closed" beta, to iron out the worst kink by using fewer testers, in order to expose the issues to the fewest users before pushing it live.
    Not going to keep going back and forth. I respect your opinion as it is and appreciate your input/response to my post even though I disagree.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Traderjill View Post
    Not going to keep going back and forth. I respect your opinion as it is and appreciate your input/response to my post even though I disagree.
    /crowd chanting fight fight fight ! =)

  6. #126
    By live I meant open, or more inclusive, beta. Sorry for any confusion.
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  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by djcenox View Post
    What about steam integration? Not that i really like steam, but steam integration or origin integration would be an extremely nice thing to involve new ppl.
    Funcom is already on Steam. TSW was in the Steam Summer Sale this last weekend ($15 dollars - pretty good deal). There are many other free-to-play games on Steam, including f2p MMORPGs like Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. Putting AO onto Steam would be trivial, and frankly I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Johtan View Post
    Funcom is already on Steam. TSW was in the Steam Summer Sale this last weekend ($15 dollars - pretty good deal). There are many other free-to-play games on Steam, including f2p MMORPGs like Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. Putting AO onto Steam would be trivial, and frankly I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.
    the steam overlay crashes AO is the reason, id imagine theyll work on it for when NPE is ready to go live itd be a good time to go on steam i guess

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Nusquam View Post
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  10. #130
    NPE and advertising on steam may be at one time. But its crucial to get all things well done with NPE. IN times when AO started, players liked to discover how to play a game, game functions, actions ect. Now most people online have their habits from other games and AO at current state is just awfull for newcomers. FC made many mistakes along the line. Keep in mind, that GUIDE from BackYards was never introduced on newbie island (figures), then they took ICC shuttleport and all new players are cluless and therefore, they quit game before they learn its beauty.
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  11. #131
    I find the beta discussion a bit unnecessary.
    We already have a perfectly good enviroment to test new features. Testlive.
    It's voluntary and the "cheating" aspect keeps the gameplay from being taken too seriously.
    So people can focus on the changes. Wether those changes made sense in the past is a different cookie.

    Besides that what really bothers me is this:
    After 9 years of playing i still got the impression that absolutely noone at FunCom is able to take a step back and take an unbiased, objective look at their game.
    They are not able to put themself in a new player's shoes...

    If they could .. they would put alot more effort on accessability and information flow.
    I do not mean dumbing anything down.
    But explain it properly!

    So the website is getting updates again .. thank you ... TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH!? oO
    Meanwhile the random asian hookerdollgameMMO gets updates twice a day.

    The NPE will help new players get into the game better?
    Well that's great... will see how that works out.

    In the meantime how about spending a FRACTION of the effort and changing the default layout of the GUI presented to players?
    It's an absolute catastrophy. All the actually usefull things are disabled by default, the stuff that is there is arranged horribly inefficient
    and there's no way of telling how to switch what on and off other than "accidentally" hitting the F10 key and exploring the options yourself...
    That's not a learning curve, it's a brickwall inside an obstacle course!

    And then there's the market/shop system.
    What you couldn't come up with your own interface so you went html?
    That's just flatout incompetent ... and slow ... and ugly ... and restrictive ... did i mention slow?

    There are so many EASY ways to improve this game it just puzzles my mind that there doesn't seem to be one rational being in funcom's management to say "Go do it!".

    /rant

  12. #132
    Origin is superior to steam in various regards. It's the same thing.
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    Znore: Mastablasta <3
    Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
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  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastablasta View Post
    Origin is superior to steam in various regards. It's the same thing.
    thats highly debatable, on number of games available alone origin is inferior to steam and id argue theirs more quality games on steam but then i havent really liked anything ea have made since red alert 3 so i might be a little biased, all i know is getting ao involved with EA will make me like it a little less

  14. #134
    But then, who cares about that in this day and age of infinite computing power and space?
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    The Red Brotherhood

    I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.

    Means: about f'ing time :P
    Satenia: heresy <3
    Znore: Mastablasta <3
    Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
    Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
    Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastablasta View Post
    Origin is superior to steam in various regards. It's the same thing.
    Yes, HTML based server lists, spyware and atrocious customer support sure are superior
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  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Raggy View Post
    Yes, HTML based server lists, spyware and atrocious customer support sure are superior
    So you mean like Steam? I mean, sure you can come with your dumb story and I can come with mine, but fact of the matter is that both are pretty much the same, only one is slightly further ahead in the development of certain parts.
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    I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.

    Means: about f'ing time :P
    Satenia: heresy <3
    Znore: Mastablasta <3
    Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
    Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
    Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastablasta View Post
    But then, who cares about that in this day and age of infinite computing power and space?
    well the effect of running both while neglible for my setup no computer has infinite power or storage but that wasnt my point, its annoying as a user for me to have 2 programs that do the same damn thing just cause EA want more money as if recyling the same game annually isnt enough they require me to install a program just for their games, unlike steam it doesnt have convenience on its side its just annoying

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastablasta View Post
    So you mean like Steam? I mean, sure you can come with your dumb story and I can come with mine, but fact of the matter is that both are pretty much the same, only one is slightly further ahead in the development of certain parts.
    yes thats pretty much my point, they are the same i only want steam and ea not making games available on steam means i dont buy those games

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by blindio View Post
    well the effect of running both while neglible for my setup no computer has infinite power or storage but that wasnt my point, its annoying as a user for me to have 2 programs that do the same damn thing just cause EA want more money as if recyling the same game annually isnt enough they require me to install a program just for their games, unlike steam it doesnt have convenience on its side its just annoying
    There's a hundred digital outlets now a days, and several of them have clients you need to install. It's not like it's alien or moneygrabbing or anything in any way. Just stop being silly and accept that you can't get every product in every store.
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    The Red Brotherhood

    I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.

    Means: about f'ing time :P
    Satenia: heresy <3
    Znore: Mastablasta <3
    Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
    Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
    Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Nusquam View Post
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