healdelta and nanodelta in 1 post

[Dutchieman]

The values and amounts are for standing up.

nanodelta is capped at 2 seconds, and healdelta is capped at 2 second standing,
and 1 second sitting.


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nanopoints for breeds

atrox gets 2 nano for each point in nanopool
opifex gets 3 nano
solitus gets 3 nano
nanomage gets 4 nano

The amount of nanodelta you get is:
base + (bodydev / 100) + nanodelta items
Body Dev plays a part in the base tick amount for nano delta.
Base tick amount for Solitus is 3 nano per tick.
By "base amount" I mean if you have no +nanodelta modifiers at all.
This base amount is then increased by +1 for every 100 points in
Body Dev -- i.e. with 800 body dev, a Solitus will have a base tick of 11 nano (3+8).

Nano tickrate formula ; 28-(psy/30)=tickrate

example 28-(780/30)=2 secs

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hitpoints for breeds

atrox 4 hitpoints from each point in bodydev
opifex 3 hitpoints
solitus 3 hitpoints
nanomage 2 hitpoints

The amount of healdelta you get is:
base + (bodydev / 100) + healdelta items
Base is 4 for atrox, 3 for opi/sol, 2 for mage

healdelta tickrate formula ; (870-stam)/30=tickrate

example (870-810)/30=2 secs

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nanodelta tickrate table

0 Psy = 28s
61 Psy = 26s
121 Psy = 24s
181 Psy = 22s
241 Psy = 20s
301 Psy = 18s
361 Psy = 16s
421 Psy = 14s
481 Psy = 12s
541 Psy = 10s
601 Psy = 8s
661 Psy = 6s
721 Psy = 4s
781 Psy = 2s

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Except that it's wrong info, nanodelta is bugged at the values listed, it updates every at the faster rate in your stats window but at the slower rate in reality. Whenever you use a nano it resyncs, giving the impression that nanoprograms have much higher nanocost than they actually do.
At listed values+1 it works like it should.
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updated above list to show the +1
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Healdelta tickrate table

390 stam 16 s
420 stam 15 s
450 stam 14 s
480 stam 13 s
510 stam 12 s
540 stam 11 s
570 stam 10 s
600 stam 9 s
630 stam 8 s
660 stam 7 s
690 stam 6 s
720 stam 5 s
750 stam 4 s
780 stam 3 s
810 stam 2 s


thanks to all the ppl that made this collection possible.

[Kyai]

I don't think the nanodelta calculation is right, or at least it must be missiong something.

I have 1497 body.dev and I get +65 Nanodelta from implants. By your formulat I should get:

3+14+65=92

However I have 120 ND, so there must be something else

[Dutchieman]

have you counted up the bonusses you get from city etc?

i know i get like 32 from our notum silo wich is ql 268

that would just about make up for the diffrence.

and i just collected that formula didn't make it.
if it's not correct i can sure look at it so it's correct.

[podlore]

Nano delta depends on bodydev? Isn't it dependent on nanopool?

[Malosar]

Nano delta depends on bodydev? Isn't it dependent on nanopool?

Nope, would think so but apparently FC don't make sense. Or they consider the recovery of nano to be directly related to your physical stamina.

[MachSchau]

good work Dutchie

but what about sitdown delta rate

[Malosar]

True, sitdown is 1s for heal and 2s for nano right?

[MachSchau]

True, sitdown is 1s for heal and 2s for nano right?

no im kinda referring to all the sit down delta rate pending on your psy/stam

[Axela]

Like Malosar mentioned, sit down caps at 1s for healdelta but its still 2s for nano.

If according to the posted calculation for heal delta, you will need 825 Stamina for 1s tick. But from what I read, 810 should be enough for 1 sec tick if you treat heal delta base to be 28s (just like nano delta) rather than a 30sec base.

[Kyai]

have you counted up the bonusses you get from city etc?

i know i get like 32 from our notum silo wich is ql 268

that would just about make up for the diffrence.

and i just collected that formula didn't make it.
if it's not correct i can sure look at it so it's correct.

mmmh, forgot silo. However we have a QL300 silo which adds +36ND, so 92+36 = 128 which puts me 8 points over by the formula. But I'm not ingame to check right now, I'll do that later.

[Dutchieman]

Like Malosar mentioned, sit down caps at 1s for healdelta but its still 2s for nano.

If according to the posted calculation for heal delta, you will need 825 Stamina for 1s tick. But from what I read, 810 should be enough for 1 sec tick if you treat heal delta base to be 28s (just like nano delta) rather than a 30sec base.

the formula i posted is for standing i'll add that to the top post, and for standing the 30 is correct, and lets you end up at 2 secs for 810 stamina.

(870-810)/30=2

wich is the same as i found everywhere on when the 2 secs cap happens.

[Lumifly]

you also get a bonus to the amount recovered while sitting. at least with HP, i haven't watched the nano one cause it doesn't popup over my head =[

[rimbe]

Way to go Ru, now I know what to aim for on my lowbie doc once I get up in the levels

/Renn

[Kyai]

Just checked and the formula is right, wasn't counting silo benefit right

[Dutchieman]

bump, might be nice info for new ppl

[Mamman]

Except that it's wrong info, nanodelta is bugged at the values listed, it updates every at the faster rate in your stats window but at the slower rate in reality. Whenever you use a nano it resyncs, giving the impression that nanoprograms have much higher nanocost than they actually do.

At listed values+1 it works like it should.

[Dutchieman]

updated the post with your info

[Demoder]

Neat post, some very good information here.
*bookmarks it*

[MrKrosis]

I just tested healdelta with sitting/standing for another thread and figured this would be the right thread to get it archived.

I found your base healdelta increases by approximately <BodyDev> / 33 while sitting when compared to standing. So the actual base amounts would be <BodyDev> / 100 while standing, and <BodyDev> / 25 while sitting. Also the tickrate for sitting healdelta seems to be half that of standing, rounded down. So.. ((870 - <Stamina>) / 60) I think is accurate for the sitting tickrate.

As far as I can tell, nanodelta ignores sitting/standing completely.

[Dragocze]

actually it is
sitting: bodydev/20
standing: bodydev/50

(tested for HD a year ago, not sure about ND)