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Old Nov 14th, 2006, 20:39:21   #1
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ME and a load of other anarchy online paying subscribers are having problems playing anarchy online due to the savvis.net servers in washington. Is there a major problem that we are not aware of and is there anything that can be done about it? . i

I am getting withdraws symptoms here

i dunno who else is having this problem except other who have posted but would like to know if they have found a resolution to it .

btw i have no problem with any other online games i have and am having no internet problems at all except with anarchy online.

below the tech bit

tracert www.anarchyonline.com (dunno if this is right place but )


Tracing route to www.anarchyonline.com [216.74.158.92]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 7 ms 9 ms 8 ms 10.128.52.1
3 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms cmbg-t2cam1-b-v112.inet.ntl.com [80.1.202.193]
4 13 ms 10 ms 9 ms cmbg-t2core-b-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [195.182.176
.45]
5 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms nth-bb-b-so-720-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.181]

6 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms nth-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.193]

7 29 ms 27 ms 27 ms 193.251.251.161
8 31 ms 43 ms 26 ms ge-1-3-0-0.loncr5.london.opentransit.net [193.25
1.242.181]
9 30 ms 26 ms 26 ms po12-0.pascr2.paris.opentransit.net [193.251.242
.17]
10 26 ms 28 ms 26 ms bcr2-so-6-0-0.Parisprx.savvis.net [208.175.185.1
77]
11 27 ms 27 ms 26 ms bcs1-so-2-1-0.parisprx.savvis.net [204.70.193.13
4]
12 27 ms 28 ms 26 ms bcs2-as0-0.parisprx.savvis.net [204.70.193.206]

13 1914 ms 1919 ms 1935 ms bcs2-so-3-0-0.washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.
125]
14 1935 ms 1959 ms 1931 ms bcs1-so-7-0-0.washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.
33]
15 1928 ms * 1918 ms bcs1-ge-5-1-0.washington.savvis.net [206.24.232.
161]
16 1925 ms 1916 ms 1950 ms ahr1-pos-10-0.weehawkennj2.savvis.net [206.24.23
8.230]
17 106 ms 106 ms 105 ms 64.14.38.246
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * and so on

trace to 216.74.158.232


Tracing route to r232.d1.funcom.com [216.74.158.232]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 7 ms 9 ms 7 ms 10.128.52.1
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms cmbg-t2cam1-a-v112.inet.ntl.com [80.1.202.65]
4 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms cmbg-t2core-a-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [195.182.176
.37]
5 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms pop-bb-a-so-133-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.177]

6 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms 195.50.91.69
7 25 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae-22-52.car2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.48]
8 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms bcr1-ge-6-1-0.londonlnx.savvis.net [206.24.169.2
9]
9 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms bcs2-so-1-1-0.londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.193.1
22]
10 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms bcs1-as0-0.londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.193.201]

11 23 ms 1852 ms 1856 ms bcs2-so-0-0-0.newyork.savvis.net [204.70.192.121
]
12 22 ms 1920 ms 23 ms bcs2-as0-0.parisprx.savvis.net [204.70.193.206]

13 1937 ms 1860 ms 1868 ms bcs2-so-3-0-0.washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.
125]
14 1857 ms 1901 ms * bcs1-ge-5-1-0.washington.savvis.net [206.24.232.
161]
15 1879 ms 1897 ms 1894 ms bcs1-ge-5-1-0.washington.savvis.net [206.24.232.
161]
16 98 ms * 97 ms 64.14.38.246
17 * 104 ms * 64.14.38.246
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * and so on

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Old Nov 14th, 2006, 20:48:33   #2
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Same for me. Checking with RIPE.NET shows that 64.14.38.246 is an unllocated IP range. Looks like Savvis has a faulty router

Perhaps someone from FC can give them a friendly call

tracert log


Tracing route to r116.d1.funcom.com [216.74.158.116]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 77 ms 70 ms 78 ms lo99.lon-z-ips.as9105.net [212.74.111.187]

2 82 ms 88 ms 91 ms ge1-0-7.lon10.as9105.net [80.40.119.166]

3 89 ms 89 ms 95 ms pos2-p0.lon11.as9105.net [212.74.111.230]

4 90 ms 94 ms 89 ms ge-4-0-0.lon11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.73]

5 124 ms 129 ms 133 ms so-5-0-0.nyc33.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.80.58]

6 152 ms 154 ms 152 ms kar1-ge-5-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net [206.24.193.197]

7 165 ms 166 ms 154 ms dcr4-ge-0-2-0.newyork.savvis.net [204.70.193.54]

8 151 ms 144 ms 131 ms bcs1-so-3-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net [204.70.192.194]

9 100 ms 107 ms 117 ms bcs2-so-4-0-0.Washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.1]

10 156 ms 139 ms 140 ms bcs1-ge-5-1-0.washington.savvis.net [206.24.232.161]

11 128 ms 119 ms 124 ms ahr1-pos-10-0.Weehawkennj2.savvis.net [206.24.238.230]

12 109 ms 111 ms 129 ms ahr1-pos-10-0.Weehawkennj2.savvis.net [206.24.238.230]

13 113 ms 110 ms 121 ms 64.14.38.246

14 * * * Request timed out.

On hardware T&L settings I was unable to see chat channels, or they just loaded much later, changing to software driver I got chat channels, but crashed on zoning. First time, hardware T&L exiting OA towards Aegean, second time heading north from Aegean. This one was when running software base.

On each occassion was unable to login on the same server but was able to login on alternate server (RK1/RK2).

Still think this aims towards Savvis being at fault, but then that has been said many times before.

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Driver version 9.1.4.7 (NVidia, Windows XP Signed)

Reinstallation of machine was recent, as within last 30 days due to hard disk controller and both connected hard disks failing at the same time. Fully patched Windows XP Professional SP2 up until last night.
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Old Nov 14th, 2006, 21:14:49   #3
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Similar friggin' problems here, haven't been able to play all day, main AO site lagging, forums laggin, takes 2-3 secs in game to do every actions...
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Old Nov 14th, 2006, 22:11:31   #4
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same problem for me http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...d.php?t=469330

Tried to contact SAVVIS, no relpy as yet

My ISP request I ask funcom to do a reverse tracert to pinpoint possible peering problems

petitioned in game, response was to be told to email tech support, I suggest any with this problem do the same to attempt to push it along techsupport@anarchy-online.com
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Old Nov 14th, 2006, 23:17:32   #5
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Seditious consider yourself lucky dude i'm getting 4-10 second lag game is compleatly unplayable.

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Old Nov 14th, 2006, 23:22:45   #6
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Thumbs down crap tele

i'm sat here watching most haunted on living tv (cable tv) man this sucks, please please please fix this, before i die of bordom.
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Old Nov 14th, 2006, 23:48:39   #7
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You know things are bad when you have to resort to Derek Acorah.

Just as bad here, how the hell does a reverse tracert operate?
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 13:18:19   #8
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more info

Well i sent a email to savvis.net and also just sent another email to Ao since they ask for more info (think its a auto relpy thing )

savvis sent me a email asking for the server id and stuff i have no idea what they are on about since i thought it was thier server lol.

And waiting patiently for a email from funcom that isnt a auto response
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 16:00:30   #9
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Well given that there still seems to be no response from FC on this board regarding the matter and I'm looking at another evening of unplayable AO thought i should add my current tracert to those already posted...

Tracing route to www.anarchyonline.com [216.74.158.92]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 6 ms 5 ms *.*.*.*
2 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms renf-t2cam1-b-ge910.inet.ntl.com [82.23.160.197]

3 7 ms 5 ms 6 ms renf-t2core-b-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [195.182.176
.177]
4 7 ms 7 ms 16 ms ren-bb-b-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.205]

5 11 ms 11 ms 14 ms man-bb-a-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.170]

6 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms 212.187.137.1
7 30 ms 33 ms 32 ms so-6-0-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
114]
8 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms ae-1-0.bbr2.london1.level3.net [212.187.128.57]

9 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms ae-22-54.car2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.112]

10 33 ms 32 ms 31 ms bcr1-ge-6-1-0.londonlnx.savvis.net [206.24.169.2
9]
11 34 ms 31 ms 31 ms bcs2-so-1-1-0.londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.193.1
22]
12 35 ms 30 ms 31 ms bcs2-as0-0.londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.193.202]

13 29 ms 1869 ms 30 ms bcs1-so-0-0-0.parisprx.savvis.net [204.70.192.12
9]
14 1860 ms 1866 ms 30 ms bcs2-as0-0.parisprx.savvis.net [204.70.193.206]

15 1929 ms 110 ms 109 ms bcs2-so-3-0-0.washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.
125]
16 1870 ms 1870 ms 1860 ms bcs1-ge-5-1-0.washington.savvis.net [206.24.232.
161]
17 1859 ms 1939 ms 1887 ms ahr1-pos-10-0.weehawkennj2.savvis.net [206.24.23
8.230]
18 1880 ms 1889 ms 1892 ms 64.14.38.246
19 1925 ms * * 64.14.38.246
20 * * * Request timed out.


As can be seen from this I'm hitting problems as early as the Paris Savvis servers this is surely some internal routing problem on the Savvis end that is causing these problems for some of your customers.
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 16:30:06   #10
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Hey Folks,

We have contacted Savvis and alerted them to problems some of you are having.
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 16:58:31   #11
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I hope you'll keep us posted on Savis answer...because as it stands, AO is just totally unplayable.

Atm, living in France, i have a random 2 to 5sec lag depending on the time i log on...

I think this started 4 or 5 days ago now, and as other stated before: i don't have any problem with my internet connection outside of playing AO or browsing AO forum :x
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 17:07:40   #12
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i have been checking all day and it looks like it's fixed


9]
10 24 ms 25 ms 22 ms bcs2-as0-0.Parisprx.savvis.net [204.70.193.206]

11 103 ms 102 ms 104 ms bcs2-so-3-0-0.Washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.
125]
12 101 ms 105 ms 104 ms bcs1-so-7-0-0.Washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.
33]
13 106 ms 103 ms 104 ms bcs1-ge-5-1-0.washington.savvis.net [206.24.232.
161]
14 109 ms 105 ms 106 ms ahr1-pos-10-0.Weehawkennj2.savvis.net [206.24.23
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 17:11:48   #13
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Without being the voice of doom, try logging in and playing first Pingu still suffering the same with extra free rubberbanding here, but my tracert looks just as bad as it did.
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 18:21:17   #14
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ok i just logged on to the game and i'm having no lag at all.
I'm on my work pc, witch is on the same connection as i have at home Blueyonder cable, but this is a comercial connection with a larger upload has this anything to do with it? also the forum pages are loading instantly here.

ok just done a trace route here and got my wife to do one at home hopefully the nresults might tell someone who knows what he or she is talking about what the problem is

first one is work.

2 8 ms 7 ms 9 ms 62.30.252.129
3 21 ms 15 ms 16 ms 62.30.252.93
4 17 ms 20 ms 14 ms 62.30.252.57
5 18 ms 18 ms 23 ms 62.30.252.26
6 14 ms 14 ms 25 ms 194.117.136.166
7 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms bcs1-so-3-0-0.londonlnx.savvis.net [206.24.169.1
3]
8 19 ms 17 ms 15 ms bcs2-as0-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.193.202]

9 23 ms 22 ms 32 ms bcs1-so-0-0-0.Parisprx.savvis.net [204.70.192.12
]
10 23 ms 21 ms 25 ms bcs2-as0-0.Parisprx.savvis.net [204.70.193.206]

11 108 ms 104 ms 104 ms bcs2-so-3-0-0.Washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.
25]
12 103 ms 108 ms 105 ms bcs1-so-7-0-0.Washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.
3]
13 105 ms 107 ms 104 ms bcs1-ge-5-1-0.washington.savvis.net [206.24.232.
61]
14 109 ms 107 ms 105 ms ahr1-pos-10-0.Weehawkennj2.savvis.net [206.24.23

second one is home

2 34 ms 17 ms 7 ms gsr01-sh.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.241.65]
3 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms 62.30.252.93
4 62 ms 42 ms 42 ms 62.30.252.57
5 20 ms 20 ms 31 ms 62.30.252.26
6 17 ms 27 ms 18 ms 194.117.136.166
7 46 ms 72 ms 41 ms s254887-1.uklond5-bsn.savvis.net
[82.118.94.185]

8 60 ms 39 ms 39 ms bcs2-as0-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net
[204.70.193.202]

9 61 ms 50 ms 60 ms bcs1-so-0-0-0.Parisprx.savvis.net
[204.70.192.12
]
10 58 ms 35 ms 77 ms bcs2-as0-0.Parisprx.savvis.net
[204.70.193.206]

11 1996 ms 1873 ms 1874 ms bcs2-so-3-0-0.Washington.savvis.net
[204.70.192.
25]
12 1862 ms 1877 ms 1890 ms bcs1-so-7-0-0.Washington.savvis.net
[204.70.192.
3]
13 1958 ms 1889 ms 1883 ms bcs1-ge-5-1-0.washington.savvis.net
[206.24.232.
61]
14 1936 ms 1871 ms 1888 ms ahr1-pos-10-0.Weehawkennj2.savvis.net
[206.24.23
.230]
15 1987 ms 1899 ms 1892 ms 64.14.38.246

both tracert done at the same time

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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 18:23:27   #15
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Savvis have occationally closed the ping calls across some of their machines, and denied outsiders(as, say, NCSOFT with Lineage2, who is hosted in same area as Anarchy) to ping some times.

But, that trace route also is the one who made ncsoft move the european servers in Lineage2, to EUROPE.
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 20:13:39   #16
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Originally Posted by GM-Onehit View Post
Hey Folks,

We have contacted Savvis and alerted them to problems some of you are having.
Thanks for the response

Could you possibly move the server to outside my house to reduce lag too .... hmm, that would be nice

Thought it had been fixed on trying to log in and being online for about 20 mins, but after that stuck in the same horrible loop: login, can move but no chat, cannot attack or anything. Chat catches up, or I zone and then crash. Then timeouts on the launcher for about 15 mins. Then I can relog to the same issues.

Emailed info requested by tech support auto responder, but no crash log file as one isn't generated for this type of crash, so had to miss that one out.

Wtb a fix soon, or recompense for time we cannot play added onto our account. This has been 4 days for me so far :'(
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 22:56:49   #17
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Same here, tracert shows the issues seem to be at 'Washington.savvis.net' & 'NewYork.savvis.net' but mostly at Washington one.

I cant play, forum and site are slow... I still can post here so i am 'more or less' ok
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Old Nov 25th, 2006, 09:46:33   #18
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Im gettin zone LDs anywhere and anytime, LD loggin in LD moving from one area to the next only thing i can do at all is ado hecks....... i live in Montana so could this be the work of the washington server?
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Old Nov 27th, 2006, 22:08:51   #19
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New issue, new machine, lappy this time, can connect but zoning causes issues, lose graphics, retain sounds. Tracert points to Savvis again, same as before.

Please get them to open their systems to IP traceroute so we can identify the issue, or choose another host.

A little refund wouldn't go amiss too given the time some have spent offline

Wil happily pay Euro's for Euro server , Savvis suck

I logged on yesterday on this same machine with no issues
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Old Nov 28th, 2006, 00:45:55   #20
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Was just disconnected and unable to reconnect for a few minutes.
This was a minute or two ago.
This happened earlier today as well, but didnt manage to do a traceroute at the time. This time I managed to:

6 67.17.193.49
7 aer1-ge-2-6.newyork.savvis.net [204.70.151.21]
8 bcs2-ge-4-1-1.newyork.savvis.net [204.70.193.41]
9 bcs2-so-4-0-0.Washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.1]
10 bcs1-so-7-0-0.Washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.33]
11 bcs1-ge-5-1-0.washington.savvis.net [206.24.232.161]
12 ahr1-pos-10-0.Weehawkennj2.savvis.net [206.24.238.230]
13 ahr2-ge-6-0.Weehawkennj2.savvis.net [206.24.195.34]
14 csr11-ve243.Weehawkennj2.savvis.net [216.35.65.171]
15 64.14.38.246
16 * * *
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