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Old Dec 15th, 2006, 19:01:40   #1
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Keeper LE Research Lines - Overview

Please let me know if ya find any errors...

EDIT:
- Chance of proc activating added.
- Lines with questionmarks removed

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Originally Posted by Gwop View Post
I organized the various procs first by type, then by increase in effect. I highlighted in yellow the ultimate versions of each type that we should be working towards. Breaking down by type:
I have taken the liberty of using your color coding in the overviews...


Research line: Champion
Code:
	level	Modifier name		modifier		Level req
	1	 Brawling		10			1
	2        2HE edged		10			50
	3	 Brawling		15			75
	4	 2HE edged		15			100
	5	 Strength		10			125
	6	 PROC			Virtuous Reaper		150
	7	 Brawling		30			175
	8	 PROC			Symbiotic Bypass	190
	9	 Strength		20			190
	10	 2HE edged		60			200

Stats from maxed line					
	Skills					
		Brawling		55			
		2HE edged		85			
		Strength		30			

Proc's:	5% probability of activating on succesfull melee attack
	- Symbiotic Bypass
	  Type 1: TEAM - EvadeClsc +140 / DodgeRanged +40 / DuckExp +40

	- Virtous Reaper
	  Type 2: TEAM - All Damage Types +40
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 15th, 2006, 19:02:45   #2
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Research line: Exemplar
Code:
	level	Modifier name		modifier		Level req
	1	Sensory improvement	10			1
	2	Psychic			5			50
	3	Psy mod			15			75
	4	Sensory improvement	15			100
	5	Intelligence		10			125
	6	Evade close		25			150
	7	PROC			"Ambient Purification"	175
	8	Evade close		50			190
	9	Intelligence		20			190
	10	PROC			"Righteous Smite"	200

Stats from maxed line					
	Skills					
		Psychic			5			
		Intelligence		30			
		Strength		?			
		Sensory improvement	25			
		Psy mod			15			
		Evade close		75			

Proc's:	5% probability of activating on succesfull melee attack
	- Righteous Smite
	  Type 2: TEAM - All Damage Types +95

	- Ambient Purification
          Type 2: TEAM - Heals 481 - 948
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 15th, 2006, 19:03:53   #3
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Code:
	level	Modifier name		modifier		Level req
	1	PROC			"Righteous Strike"	1
	2	PROC			"Eschew the Faithless"	50
	3	Sensory improvement	15			75
	4	Psy mod			15			100
	5	Dodge ranged		25			125
	6	Time and space		25			150
	7	Psychic			15			175
	8	Bio met			50			190
	9	Dodge ranged		50			190
	10	Time and space		60			200

Stats from maxed line					
	Skills					
		Agility			?			
		Psychic			15			
		Sensory improvement	15			
		Psy mod			15			
		Time and space		85			
		Bio met			50			
		Dodge ranged		75			

Proc's:	5% probability of activating on succesfull melee attack
	- Righteous Strike
          Type 2: SELF, All Damage Types +2

	- Eschew the Faithless
          Type 1: SELF, EvadeClsc +50 / DodgeRanged +14 / DuckExp +14
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 15th, 2006, 19:04:59   #4
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Research line: Loyalty
Code:
	level	Modifier name		modifier		Level req
	1	NCU memory		4			1
	2	Sense			5			50
	3	PROC			"Pure Strike"		75
	4	Sense			10			100
	5	Intelligence		10			125
	6	Evade close		25			150
	7	Sense			15			175
	8	Psychic			20			190
	9	Time and space		50			190
	10	Sense			25			200

Stats from maxed line					
	Skills					
		Sense		55			
		Intelligence	10			
		Psychic		20			
		NCU memory	4			
		Evade close	25			
		Time and space	50			

Proc's:	5% probability of activating on succesfull melee attack
	- Pure Strike
          Type 2: SELF, All Damage Types +25
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 15th, 2006, 19:06:03   #5
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Research line: Judgement
Code:
	level	Modifier name		modifier		Level req
	1	Fast attack		10			   1
	2	2h Edged		10			   50
	3	PROC			"Affiliated Renewal"	   75	
	4	PROC			"Ignore the Unrepentant"   100	
	5	2h Edged		25			   125
	6	Fast attack		25			   150
	7	Offense modifier	30			   175
	8	Fast attack		50			   190
	9	2h Edged		50			   190
	10	PROC			"Faithful Revival"	   200	

Stats from maxed line				
	Skills				
		Intelligence		?		
		Fast attack		85		
		2h Edged		85		
		Offense modifier	30		
					
Proc's:	5% probability of activating on succesfull melee attack
	- Affiliated Renewal
          Type 1: TEAM, Seems Broken

	- Ignore the Unrepentant
          Type 2: SELF, EvadeClsc +110 / DodgeRanged +30 / DuckExp +30

	- Faithful Revival
          Type 1: TEAM, Heals 485 - 970
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Originally Posted by Stick View Post
what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 15th, 2006, 19:07:35   #6
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Research line: Virtue
Code:
			
	level	Modifier name	modifier		Level req
	1	PROC		"Faithful Reconstruction"	1
	2	Body dev	10				50
	3	Stamina		10				75
	4	Max health	100				100
	5	Stamina		10				125
	6	Heal modifier	2				150
	7	Max health	150				175
	8	Stamina		20				190
	9	Heal delta	10				190
	10	Max health	300				200

Stats from maxed line				
	Skills				
		Strength		?		
		Stamina			40		
		Body development	10		
		Max health		550		
		Heal modifier		2		
		Heal delta		10		
					
					
Proc's:	5% probability of activating on succesfull melee attack
	- Faithful Reconstruction
          Type 2: TEAM, Heals 21 - 42
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Quote:
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 15th, 2006, 19:08:36   #7
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Code:
			
	level	Modifier name	modifier		Level req
	1	Agility		5			1
	2	Intelligence	5			50
	3	Dimach		15			75
	4	Agility		10			100
	5	PROC		"Benevolent Barrier"	125
	6	Melee init	25			150
	7	Fast attack	30			175
	8	Brawl		50			190
	9	Dimach		50			190
	10	Agility		25			200

Stats from maxed line				
	Skills				
		Strength	?		
		Agility		40		
		Intelligence	5		
		Dimach		65		
		Melee init	25		
		Fast attack	30		
		Brawl		50		
					
Proc's:	5% probability of activating on succesfull melee attack
	- Benevolent Barrier
          Type 1: SELF, Reflect All Types 4%
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 16th, 2006, 00:34:19   #8
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Good job mate, was about to do it but you got me

I was just wondering why there's some lines like:

7 "Strength" ? Amount unknown
PROC "Ambient Purification" 175

#7 in this line is just a proc. nothing to do with "strength" afaik as this line dont add any to the strength ability, and the like in other lines u listed.
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Old Dec 16th, 2006, 09:57:24   #9
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You can see here why I have put it there.

Since I haven't got one of those proc's yet, I have no idea whether there is a strength buff to it as well as the proc.

Could also be it means that the Proc is Strength based.... No idea.... If it's like you say, that it's just a proc and got nothing to do with strength I will clean those lines up, but until further I think it's best to have it there...

Feedback is most welcome and I can/will add confirmations to the relevant posts.
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 16th, 2006, 10:00:20   #10
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Modifier added to the "Pure Strike" PROC in the loyalty line... and I still have no idea what the Strength part of the proc description means...

3 "Strength"
PROC "Pure Strike"
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.
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Old Dec 16th, 2006, 15:35:23   #11
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Proc Effects
  • Champion
    • Symbiotic Bypass
      Type 1: TEAM - EvadeClsc +140 / DodgeRanged +40 / DuckExp +40
    • Virtous Reaper
      Type 2: TEAM - All Damage Types +40
  • Exemplar
    • Righteous Smite
      Type 2: TEAM - All Damage Types +95
    • Ambient Purification
      Type 2: TEAM - Heals 481 - 948
  • Judgement
    • Affiliated Renewal
      Type 1: TEAM - Seems Broken
    • Ignore the Unrepentant
      Type 2: SELF - EvadeClsc +110 / DodgeRanged +30 / DuckExp +30
    • Faithful Revival
      Type 1: TEAM - Heals 485 - 970
  • Loyalty
    • Pure Strike
      Type 2: SELF - All Damage Types +25
  • Paragon
    • Benevolent Barrier
      Type 1: SELF - Reflect All Types 4%
  • Virtue
    • Faithful Reconstruction
      Type 2: TEAM - Heals 21 - 42
  • Wisdom
    • Righteous Strike
      Type 2: SELF - All Damage Types +2
    • Eschew the Faithless
      Type 1: SELF - EvadeClsc +50 / DodgeRanged +14 / DuckExp +14
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Old Dec 16th, 2006, 17:02:37   #12
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dasm nice... Will add to above...


Have you got all of them yourself?
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 16th, 2006, 17:43:31   #13
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No i have 7 or so, got the mods i didn't have from other people / aomainframe
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Old Dec 16th, 2006, 19:00:18   #14
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Not sure what is with the blank ability things, maybe just where they copy and pasted? :P

Hm noticed some pretty cool proc effects too, the team dmg ones give whole team our glowey feet thing. And symbiotic bypass sets you on fire when it procs ^^ The rest seem pretty generic so far
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I organized the various procs first by type, then by increase in effect. I highlighted in yellow the ultimate versions of each type that we should be working towards. Breaking down by type:

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Type1:

Wisdom - Eschew the Faithless

Type 1: SELF - EvadeClsc +50 / DodgeRanged +14 / DuckExp +14

Champion - Symbiotic Bypass

Type 1: TEAM - EvadeClsc +140 / DodgeRanged +40 / DuckExp +40


Judgement - Affiliated Renewal

Type 1: TEAM - Seems Broken

Paragon - Benevolent Barrier

Type 1: SELF - Reflect All Types 4%


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Type2:

Wisdom - Righteous Strike

Type 2: SELF - All Damage Types +2

Loyalty - Pure Strike

Type 2: SELF - All Damage Types +25

Champion - Virtous Reaper

Type 2: TEAM - All Damage Types +40

Exemplar - Righteous Smite

Type 2: TEAM - All Damage Types +95


Virtue - Faithful Reconstruction

Type 2: TEAM - Heals 21 - 42

Exemplar - Ambient Purification

Type 2: TEAM - Heals 481 - 948


Judgement - Ignore the Unrepentant

Type 2: SELF - EvadeClsc +110 / DodgeRanged +30 / DuckExp +30
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Old Dec 17th, 2006, 02:08:10   #16
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dasm nice

EDIT: Your color coding added in the posts above...
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what? you mean there are not enough pvp-ers in this game to get the BS running? that's impossible. shocking. it cannot be. then how come every freakin balance/LE mish/VP idea is shot down by a pvp-er because he says the majority of the players are pvp?
you are probably mistaking. go do those numbers again.

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Old Dec 17th, 2006, 14:05:24   #17
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That means that you can have 2 evade proc or 2 heal proc at the same, as you we have one type 1 heal proc and one type 2 evade proc.

For solo I would go for 2 evade procs, because for healing the 5% proc chance is just unreliable.

For team both the heal procs and the reflect look nice. Or damage if you want to help kill faster.
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Old Dec 17th, 2006, 16:10:59   #18
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Reflect is 4% self, run dmg + evade imho.
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Old Dec 17th, 2006, 20:48:11   #19
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Sticky the good work please!
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