Nano Crystal (Phantom Profession) - Take Two

[Ayria]

Phantom Profession

School: Psi
StackingOrder: 3
Duration: 60 minutes
NCUCost: 20
NanoPoints: 2000
Flags: NotRemovable, IsHostile, IsBuff, NoResistCannotFumble
AttackRange: 1m
AttackTime: 20s
RechargeTime: 5s
Atk. Skills: BiologicalMetamorphosis: 34%
PsychologicalModification: 33%
SensoryImprovement: 33%
Def. Skills: NanoResist: 0%

ToUse:
Self PsychologicalModification >= (See Below)
Self SensoryImprovement >= (See Below)
Self BiologicalMetamorphosis >= (See Below)
Self VisualProfession == Agent
Self Must have Lost Eden

OnUse:
ChangeVariable Self
VisualProfession (Variable)
Skill Self NPCostModifier 0%
Skill Self NanoRange 0%
Skill Self InterruptModifier 0%
Modify Self NanoC.Init -375
Modify Self PsychologicalModification -300
Modify Self SensoryImprovement -300
Modify Self MaterialMetamorphosis -300
Modify Self MaterialCreation -300
Modify Self SpaceTime -300
Modify Self BiologicalMetamorphosis -300


Phantom Profession (Enforcer) - PsychologicalModification >= 888 SensoryImprovement >= 888 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 888

Phantom Profession (Soldier) - PsychologicalModification >= 896 SensoryImprovement >= 896 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 896

Phantom Profession (Martial Artist) - PsychologicalModification >= 910 SensoryImprovement >= 910 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 910

Phantom Profession (Adventurer) - PsychologicalModification >= 924 SensoryImprovement >= 924 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 924

Phantom Profession (Engineer) - PsychologicalModification >= 935 SensoryImprovement >= 935 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 935

Phantom Profession (Fixer) - PsychologicalModification >= 951 SensoryImprovement >= 951 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 951

Phantom Profession (Trader) - PsychologicalModification >= 963 SensoryImprovement >= 963 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 963

Phantom Profession (Doctor) - PsychologicalModification >= 972 SensoryImprovement >= 972 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 972

Phantom Profession (Bureaucrat) - PsychologicalModification >= 979 SensoryImprovement >= 979 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 979

Phantom Profession (Meta-Physicist) - PsychologicalModification >= 986 SensoryImprovement >= 986 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 986

Phantom Profession (Nanotechnician) - PsychologicalModification >= 995 SensoryImprovement >= 995 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 995

Like the originally suggested Phantom Profession, found here the extension to your toolkit will also bring a few new nanos converted to VisualProfession. The difference is the duration of one hour, now that we can refresh our Mimic/Assume/FP whenever we want so to would we be able to do with Phantom.

[Lletah]

I am all for this, bump

[crattey]

I thnk agents would be better off developing a toolset for their profession. Mimic is nearly impossible to balance in PvP. Not to mention the utter ****loads of 'ZOMG AGENTS ARE USING MY NANOS' whines you'll get.

[Ayria]

Originally Posted by crattey I thnk agents would be better off developing a toolset for their profession. Mimic is nearly impossible to balance in PvP. Not to mention the utter ****loads of 'ZOMG AGENTS ARE USING MY NANOS' whines you'll get.

This is Agent's toolset. Don't like it? Tough, I don't like many things about other peoples toolsets, doesn't mean I feel it should be changed.

[Nekrofiil]

Just make agents able to cast everything and problem solved.

No that means bump.

[Ayria]

No casting everything would be overpowered and leave professions out of a job. What has long been discussed amongst Agents is the desire for even just the first nano of the SL lines that other professions got. Ie. The first SL doctor heal instead of being stuck with LGE at 220; when a froob uses it at 130.

Or things like a few of Fixer's long HoTs and NCU buffs etc.

Enough to revive our usefulness beyond level 130 nanos but without taking everything away from others.

[Lletah]

Originally Posted by crattey Mimic is nearly impossible to balance in PvP.

Apart from CH, we just get the same benefits OSB provides for the most part.

It's only CH that has a major impact in pvp via the FP-lines actually. And tms to a extent, so you can

Originally Posted by crattey I thnk agents would be better off developing a toolset for their profession.

I agree, but one thing doesn't exlude the other.

Originally Posted by crattey Not to mention the utter ****loads of 'ZOMG AGENTS ARE USING MY NANOS' whines you'll get.

Yeah, and?

[Agency]

Bump of course.

[deniska]

Originally Posted by crattey I thnk agents would be better off developing a toolset for their profession.

Did it ever cross your mind, that everybody and their dogs are using what was originally intended to be a part of agent's toolset? I mean even melee profs like enfos and keepers are using AS nowdays.

Welcome to AO PvP, where no classes have a toolset of their own.

[SF_MileWorf]

bah, stop with mimics pls

[Ayria]

Originally Posted by SF_MileWorf bah, stop with mimics pls

Stop with AMS.
Stop with Cocoon.
Stop with Evades.

Pls.

Mimic is Agent's toolkit, saying we should stop it is as fair and valid as me asking for them to stop anyone else's toolkit, such as AMS, coon and evades.

[Threezey]

cast reqs should be alot higher, like all the other professions "improved" nanos... should be just above the point where it's difficult to cast and annoys you

[Ayria]

The requirements follow the same mathematical difference between FP to Assume and Assume to Mimic. These are also not designed for 215+ as is FCs latest design style and thus super high requirements is unrealistic.

I realize that Funcom has it in their head that every new addition to the game has to be so hard to get that it makes people want to quit, but I do not share that philosophy and I do not see why the community accepts it and even goes as far as condoning it. Needless to say these nanos are designed as a continuation of the FP/Assume/Mimic line for use while leveling not for use at endgame only or reserved to hardcore twinks only.

The game is meant to be enjoyed, making everything an insane challenge because someone lacks imagination of the level ranges below 210 is not enjoyable. And in my opinion it should not be endgame that defines the rules for the rest of the game.

[Nanotehnpoir]

If this was ever to be implemented...


Those nanoskills need to be UPPED

and I mean... by a lot more than they already are...

You want mastery of every professions nano in-game?

You better be one HELLA smart and skilled agent.. not just your everyday run of the mill agent..

Probably over 2.2-2.3k Requirements on most of those, if not more (yes sounds extremely high, but it should be to be able to master that.., also considering it's a FP nano. most of you know you can switch in items/gear to get a lot... also outside buffs.. all of that together, it can equal quite an actually, lot more than 2.2k)

The nano requirements you're asking for definitely should have more punishment than -300 to have the opportunity to cast some of the greatest and latest nanos of other professions...

I managed to look at some calc'ing of putting a ton of nanoskill stuff onto an agent..
Equip (doesn't include Spirit Phulakterion which could be +100 possibly ) + Buffs =
Got 2370'ish BM + 153 (umbral) + 140 (Comp. Mochams) = ~2663
2204 MM + 153 + 140 = 2497
2121 PM + 153 + 140 = 2414
2381 MC + 153 + 140 = 2674
2051 TS + 153 + 140 = 2344
2114 SI + 153 + 140 = 2407

Take off 300 from 2663 and 2497, and you get 2363 and 2197... with this "unblockage" to nanos.. you have enough there to cast ICH and BI ....


Course not saying this is anything easy.. but... certainly would give agents QUITE a bit of power to do things... not saying they necessarily should be barred from things.. but there has to be a pretty high requirement to be able to do that..

[Lupusceleri]

Bump!

I think that if the requirements get a boost; they should be 1300-1350ish.

Reasoning behind this: Most agents have big troubles already casting True Profession. Which is 1625 PM SI. But to have a use for TP, you need at least a -25 nanoskill debuff on you: False Profession. So the reqs are in fact 1650.

Now, to be able to refresh this mimic like the others, keep in mind we will have 300 less nanoskills than normal. So then you get... 1300-1350ish requirements. In that case things are still doable.

Then, as Deniska beautifully said, peoples shouldn't cry about agents using a part of their toolset, because everyone and their dogs use the main offensive part of the agent toolset: AS. And we will still be worse at utilizing that toolset than the real profession, because of the nanoskills debuff and not having access to the top nanos (even if stuff got unlocked, we still can't get the DB nanos because they are from a quest reward) or even perks! I mean come on, how much would you truly fear an agent in Mimic: Fixer, with two hots instead of one? We still lack Acrobat so...... How much would you truly fear a TL7 agent in Mimic: Enforcer? We still lack iMango, Coon, Bio Regrowth, the good enf hp, etc..

Last, mr. Chacapo, you should get real. No profession has to run around in an ALL nanoskills setup to be able to cast their nanos, except for maybe an engineer. Now let me tell you, in an allout nanoskills setup the agent gets SQUISHY. And dies. Fast. On top of that, noone wants to be looking for OSB all the time. I do know that I don't want to, at least... And including the 153 umbral in that calculation is LOLABLE, we both know how "common" TL7 traders are.......... Let alone how much they run around with you to always keep that umbral up.

And most of all, I'd really like to see that "nanoskill setup" you are proposing. Because I think we are looking at another case of "9k hp, 2.4k AR, 1k evades, phulak as a weapon, all hud/utils into nanoskills, all perks into nanoskills" here. In short, a retarded setup.

[Klodders]

No to this, mimic Solper should do.

[Pafpuf]

Originally Posted by Ayria Phantom Profession (Enforcer) - PsychologicalModification >= 1888 SensoryImprovement >= 1888 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1888 Phantom Profession (Soldier) - PsychologicalModification >= 1896 SensoryImprovement >= 1896 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1896 Phantom Profession (Martial Artist) - PsychologicalModification >= 1910 SensoryImprovement >= 1910 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1910 Phantom Profession (Adventurer) - PsychologicalModification >= 1924 SensoryImprovement >= 1924 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1924 Phantom Profession (Engineer) - PsychologicalModification >= 1935 SensoryImprovement >= 1935 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1935 Phantom Profession (Fixer) - PsychologicalModification >= 1951 SensoryImprovement >= 1951 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1951 Phantom Profession (Trader) - PsychologicalModification >= 1963 SensoryImprovement >= 1963 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1963 Phantom Profession (Doctor) - PsychologicalModification >= 1972 SensoryImprovement >= 1972 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1972 Phantom Profession (Bureaucrat) - PsychologicalModification >= 1979 SensoryImprovement >= 1979 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1979 Phantom Profession (Meta-Physicist) - PsychologicalModification >= 1986 SensoryImprovement >= 1986 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1986 Phantom Profession (Nanotechnician) - PsychologicalModification >= 1995 SensoryImprovement >= 1995 BiologicalMetamorphosis >= 1995

Bump.

[agentwolve]

Originally Posted by Nanotehnpoir Stuff

you forgot we can go fp trader and get 420 nano skills of drains then TP that off and cast the phantom mimic so imo add another 400 to your requirements so we need atleast 2.7k to cast this to make it fair.

/sarcasm off

do you realise how stupid you sound now ?

[Nanotehnpoir]

Originally Posted by agentwolve you forgot we can go fp trader and get 420 nano skills of drains then TP that off and cast the phantom mimic so imo add another 400 to your requirements so we need atleast 2.7k to cast this to make it fair. /sarcasm off do you realise how stupid you sound now ?

No, I already knew about that.. but thanks for pointing it out to me!

Definitely should be 2.7k then ... jk


They should be at least pafpuf's requirements.. if agents really can get the nanoskills I calc'ed.. (swapping isn't impossible to cast this.. then swap off to normal gear) Why shouldn't the reqs on such a nano be fairly high?

You would be gaining access to every nano in-game

Originally Posted by Lupus' Snip snip

Of course it's mainly nanoskills, not great offense gear , You can always swap, cast higher things than with your "usual" gear, swap off... this isn't an offensive nano you use verse someone, so constantly high nanoskills aren't "needed" for this nano

But I'll let it down to Pafpuf's reqs.. (Which are still very possible)

[Lletah]

No need for higher requirements, probably lower requirements since SL-nanos takes more nanoskills.
And most of the SL-nanos aren't that special anyway, some LE nanos are great.

Bump, but better solution is just to change some SL and LE nanos to visual profession