Hellfyre Magma Suit

[Foozor]

as one of the very few suit users I would just like to say that we could really use a little love in the coming future maybe from some sort of upgrade process like that found in xan or something similar the suit is was a bit weak from the start but its starting to get much weaker and Id just hate to have to leave it behind that is all

[Grim-One]

BUMP !


Wish they would fix color on it while they at it. Put it back on recently to get battle suit look for a while and it brown again after zone

[Foozor]

hrmm mine stays red but ya I heard that has been a problem... I think a good stats for the suit these days would be to add another 1k to the hp add 100 to all inits possibly 100 to multi melee and ranged maybe a lil nano resist and possibly 20 to every ability that would bring it more in line and keep it a bit more viable possibly make it a xan battlesuit that is blue :x but that is just wishful thinking

[Grim-One]

Don't forget to add 100 to all melee skills to , maybe even 150.

[Foozor]

yeah for sure I mean we are supposed to be in a armor machine more or less a small mech I would think punching someone while inside it would hurt more then not being in one id also like to see being able to equip rings and bracers and possibly some specialized underclothes being made for it

[Grim-One]

> Edit > since this is being overlooked by people who don't read all of thread -----> Armor is not to drop as is, trade skill process with 10 or so parts needed to get this version. Some things from Beast, some from Xan bosses and what not.


Hellfyre of Xan

Modify Max health 3187
Modify Projectile AC 7500
Modify Melee AC 7500
Modify Energy AC 7500
Modify Chemical AC 7500
Modify Radiation AC 7500
Modify Cold AC 7500
Modify Poison AC 7500
Modify Fire AC 8000
Modify Bow 150
Modify Pistol 150
Modify Rifle 150
Modify Smg 150
Modify Shotgun 150
Modify Assault rifle 150
Modify Ranged energy 150
Modify Melee init 100
Modify Ranged init 100
Modify Physical init 100
Modify Nano init 100
Modify Multi ranged 100
Modify Multi melee 100
Modify 1h Blunt 150
Modify 1h Edged 150
Modify Melee energy 150
Modify 2h Edged 150
Modify Piercing 150
Modify 2h Blunt 150
Modify Grenade 150
Modify Heavy weapons 150
Modify Sharp objects 150
Modify Duck explosives 180
Modify Dodge ranged 180
Modify Evade close 180
Modify Nano resist 140
Modify Run speed 150
Modify Max nano 2000
Modify Offense modifier 175
Modify Defense modifier 150
Modify Projectile damage modifier 250
Modify Melee damage modifier 250
Modify Energy damage modifier 250
Modify Chemical damage modifier 250
Modify Radiation damage modifier 250
Modify Cold damage modifier 250
Modify Fire damage modifier 250
Modify Poison damage modifier 250
Modify Critical chance 7
Modify Strength 20
Modify Agility 20
Modify Stamina 20
Modify Intelligence 20
Modify Sense 20
Modify Psychic 20
Resistance Doctor DOT line A 3%
Resistance Doctor DOT line B 3%
Resistance Nano-technician DOT line A 3%
Resistance Agent DOT line 3%
Resistance Nano-technician DOT line B 3%
Resistance Blind 3%
Resistance Snare 3%
Resistance Root 3%
Resistance Calm 3%
Resistance Init debuffs 3%
Resistance MP damage debuff 3%



Did I miss anything? Added resistance at last minute 3% sounded fair.

[Dancingrage]

Actually, what's needed are more suits, one for melee users that gives lotsa HP (like CM) and another that's focused on nanoskill buffing with equal evades (Like CS). Call the melee version Hellfyre Granite and the nanoskill version Hellfyre Glacier, and you're good to go after putting the appropriate color textures to match the meshes.

Probably take all of 2 hours to do.

[Comi]

another that's focused on nanoskill buffing with equal evades (Like CS). Call the melee version Hellfyre Granite and the nanoskill version Hellfyre Glacier, and you're good to go after putting the appropriate color textures to match the meshes.

Probably take all of 2 hours to do.

Battle suits are supposed to block you from the world, there shouldnt be one with nano stuff.

[Honorbound]

... and possibly some specialized underclothes being made for it

That sounds familiar...

"Underwear" for battle suits

There is a situation I didn't think of back then tho; the Hellfyre could become overpowered when worn with a set of those support suits.

[Ciex]

Hellfyre of Xan
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Did I miss anything? Added resistance at last minute 3% sounded fair.

What you re asking for was almost introduced as "Diggma Combined Commandos" armor but people didnt like it. Guess why.

I realy dont want to play game where everyone is wearing same xan magma suit. AR, evades, heal delta, dmg ... everything included in a one piece of armor that drops like candys out of dread boss so you wouldnt even have to buy viral bots. Nah ...

[Grim-One]

What you re asking for was almost introduced as "Diggma Combined Commandos" armor but people didnt like it. Guess why.

I realy dont want to play game where everyone is wearing same xan magma suit. AR, evades, heal delta, dmg ... everything included in a one piece of armor that drops like candys out of dread boss so you wouldnt even have to buy viral bots. Nah ...

This is no where near Diggma, that stuff was way over powered.

Hmm and hear I thought it was pretty reasonable, didn't add heal delta, nano delta, nano cost mod, skill locks mods, nanoskills, weapon specials or many other things to keep it from being over powered. Keep in mind you cant use much with battle suits no bracers, rings, shoulders slot. Ljotur armor and fly specs for some extra acs and that about it of anything that is useful. You can get much higher stats then these In a normal combined type set up. Everyone already wears combined, that is pretty much the "same" thing.
Did I say anywhere I wanted it to drop already like this with these stats?
It would almost be an insult if it was easy to get. Make it take like 10 things to upgrade it from normal to this version. Some things from Beast, some from Xan bosses and what not.

[Kaitoujeanne]

Bump for this!

[thecheeseman]

new battlesuit:
Refitted Mechanized Notum Mining Suit(melee) clan
Salvaged Unicorn Orbital Assault Armor(unicorn guard armor) omni
Rebuilt Kyr'Ozch Battlesuit(armor thats shiny and green like aliens)

upgraded abbaddon battlesuit:
Champion of Abaddon: The Immortal Obliterator (adds off/def)
Champion of Abaddon: The Immortal Berserker (adds dmg)
Champion of Abaddon: The Immortal Tyrant (adds reflect)
With the (upgrade device) inserted , the sacred chasis comes to life once again. The suit whispers to you: "kill! kil!"

nanoskill adding battlesuit:
Cloak of Eternal Torment

This warm and moist cloak is sewn from flayed human skin.


I have a proposal that instead of using your own weapon, make a special battlesuit that come with its own built-in weapon like the omnitek gunship, maybe let it use heavy weapons as a skill

[Grim-One]

> Edit > since this is being overlooked by people who don't read all of thread -----> Armor is not to drop as is, trade skill process with 10 or so parts needed to get this version. Some things from Beast, some from Xan bosses and what not.


Here is link for how the suit is now ( http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=267085 ) for those who don't know already.
The suit already had ranged on it so figured just add melee to make it easier, but I guess it could be split into 2 types of suits so people can pretend they are more unique. One that buffs ranged skills and one that buffs melee.
These versions don't have ranged and melee together anymore so should probably take even less parts to upgrade maybe.

Hellfyre of Xan ( melee ) - Infantry Upgrade? (Feel free to come up with a name)

Modify Max health 3187
Modify Projectile AC 7500
Modify Melee AC 7500
Modify Energy AC 7500
Modify Chemical AC 7500
Modify Radiation AC 7500
Modify Cold AC 7500
Modify Poison AC 7500
Modify Fire AC 8000
Modify Melee init 100
Modify Physical init 100
Modify Nano init 100
Modify Multi melee 100
Modify 1h Blunt 150
Modify 1h Edged 150
Modify Melee energy 150
Modify 2h Edged 150
Modify Piercing 150
Modify 2h Blunt 150
Modify Heavy weapons 150
Modify Sharp objects 150
Modify Duck explosives 180
Modify Dodge ranged 180
Modify Evade close 180
Modify Nano resist 140
Modify Run speed 150
Modify Max nano 2000
Modify Offense modifier 175
Modify Defense modifier 150
Modify Projectile damage modifier 250
Modify Melee damage modifier 250
Modify Energy damage modifier 250
Modify Chemical damage modifier 250
Modify Radiation damage modifier 250
Modify Cold damage modifier 250
Modify Fire damage modifier 250
Modify Poison damage modifier 250
Modify Critical chance 7
Modify Strength 20
Modify Agility 20
Modify Stamina 20
Modify Intelligence 20
Modify Sense 20
Modify Psychic 20
Resistance Doctor DOT line A 3%
Resistance Doctor DOT line B 3%
Resistance Nano-technician DOT line A 3%
Resistance Agent DOT line 3%
Resistance Nano-technician DOT line B 3%
Resistance Blind 3%
Resistance Snare 3%
Resistance Root 3%
Resistance Calm 3%
Resistance Init debuffs 3%
Resistance MP damage debuff 3%




Hellfyre of Xan ( ranged ) - Ranger upgrade ? (Feel free to come up with a name)

Modify Max health 3187
Modify Projectile AC 7500
Modify Melee AC 7500
Modify Energy AC 7500
Modify Chemical AC 7500
Modify Radiation AC 7500
Modify Cold AC 7500
Modify Poison AC 7500
Modify Fire AC 8000
Modify Bow 150
Modify Pistol 150
Modify Rifle 150
Modify Smg 150
Modify Shotgun 150
Modify Assault rifle 150
Modify Ranged energy 150
Modify Ranged init 100
Modify Nano init 100
Modify Multi ranged 100
Modify Grenade 150
Modify Heavy weapons 150
Modify Duck explosives 180
Modify Dodge ranged 180
Modify Evade close 180
Modify Nano resist 140
Modify Run speed 150
Modify Max nano 2000
Modify Offense modifier 175
Modify Defense modifier 150
Modify Projectile damage modifier 250
Modify Melee damage modifier 250
Modify Energy damage modifier 250
Modify Chemical damage modifier 250
Modify Radiation damage modifier 250
Modify Cold damage modifier 250
Modify Fire damage modifier 250
Modify Poison damage modifier 250
Modify Critical chance 7
Modify Strength 20
Modify Agility 20
Modify Stamina 20
Modify Intelligence 20
Modify Sense 20
Modify Psychic 20
Resistance Doctor DOT line A 3%
Resistance Doctor DOT line B 3%
Resistance Nano-technician DOT line A 3%
Resistance Agent DOT line 3%
Resistance Nano-technician DOT line B 3%
Resistance Blind 3%
Resistance Snare 3%
Resistance Root 3%
Resistance Calm 3%
Resistance Init debuffs 3%
Resistance MP damage debuff 3%



These stats really are not that much higher than what original suit is, just a small boost to what was already there. Aside from melee skills the only new things that were added was inits, multi ranged / melee, nano resit, basic ability, and resistance line.

[Grim-One]

doot

[Binarybits]

General rule of thumb: If an items mod stats are more than two pages long it would be considered to be overpowered. Hell lets go all the way and add mods that change visual profession and add 300 to treatment, heck lets just call it the 'monkey suit of all uberness'.

[Grim-One]

Guess I'm in the clear then. Cause those stats don't even take up half a page.

If you were trying to say this suit overpowered, I would still have to say you were wrong.

Stats for a full set Combined Commando's below, keep in mind that his doesnt include back, wrist, shoulder, and ring slots.

ACs
Projectile AC 6680
Melee AC 6360
Energy AC 6680
Chemical AC 6040
Radiation AC 6360
Cold AC 5720
Poison AC 6680
Fire AC 6040

Miscellanous
Offense modifier 105
Defense modifier 105

Melee
Martial arts 210
1h Blunt 210
1h Edged 210
2h Edged 210
2h Blunt 210
Piercing 210
Melee energy 210
Fast attack 210
Brawl 210
Dimach 210
Sneak attack 210
Multi melee 210

Ranged
Bow 210
Pistol 210
Smg 210
Shotgun 210
Rifle 210
Assault rifle 210
Ranged energy 210
Fling shot 210
Burst 210
Full auto 210
Aimed shot 210
Bow special attack 210
Multi ranged 210
Sharp objects 210
Grenade 210
Heavy weapons 210

Speed
Riposte 210
Parry 210

Damage
Projectile damage modifier 70
Melee damage modifier 70
Energy damage modifier 70
Chemical damage modifier 70
Radiation damage modifier 70
Cold damage modifier 70
Fire damage modifier 70
Poison damage modifier 70



Now by the time you add in back, wrist, shoulder, and ring slots, the stats in general will still be higher than the Hellfyre of Xan suit stats.

[Livesangry]

sure but an full set of CC costs alot, i dont think some suit can compare to the price of CC. unless u make it very very hard to get.

[Grim-One]

Cost shouldn't even come into it. That is something that is player set. Combined only cost so much cause people don't want to spend time farming it, and the few that actually will farm raise the price as they see fit.

I had already said I didn't want it easy to get. Can scroll up to earlier post and look. But it shouldn't be "very very" hard to get either. Combined isn't hard to get at all , just slow if your doing it without buying from another player.

[Grim-One]

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