Leave it at 80% for the rest of the support professions.
Copy paste pistol mastery to a new adv perk line, make it 100% checks
Leave it at 80% for the rest of the support professions.
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I've complained about this a few times, dont see why engis, mps, docs and crats have to be nerfed just because ranged advy offense is considered overpowering. Advys have a lower IP cost for pistol and the rest of the proffessions using pistol mastery perkline all have the same IP expenditure, higher than advy.
Bump for common sense, willing to accept it if the % check was 90% compared to 100% for advys.
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make it 100% for everyone so it will be fair
or give all other prof 80% def check perk and remove the evade skill.
Fair?Originally Posted by laillea
Fair is an awful broad thing to define. But I can tell you that it would be UNFAIR to nerf all of the pistol support professions simply because advs are too OP with it the way it is.
If you don't think your own perks or offenses are good enough relative to pistols, then make your own thread and complain about it there.
Last edited by Sterva; Nov 14th, 2009 at 21:47:13.
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Actually the checks should be the same, but if an adv is doing the damage the perks should hit for considerably more damage.
They're better than you are with pistols. It makes sense. Get with it. If anything open it up to Soldiers and Agents
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My suggestion is to make the first two perks in line have 80% check (would help TL5 balance then also) and that final Deadeye perk having 100%.
No, it doesn't make sense. Unless some professions are just *supposed* to have godly defense and godly offense and others are just *supposed* to suck.Actually the checks should be the same, but if an adv is doing the damage the perks should hit for considerably more damage.
They're better than you are with pistols. It makes sense. Get with it. If anything open it up to Soldiers and Agents
Currently advs have both. Support profs have neither, even with 80% checks. Quit trolling, troll.
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Ask for a more logical thing, if there is anything a pistol or gun weilding class should do it's dominate you with pistols.
It's fine, the 80% is a bit O.o, but by no means should classes who are amateurs with pistols for some reason perform better with them than professionals.
It reeks a bit like AOC and Stamina, which was the stupidest balance move ever seen in any game (good one, Gaute)
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Uh huh. This is me taking you seriously, no really.
Go find your open PM up for agents thread, and I'll bump it so we can all have a laugh.
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You nailed it. Pistol's are a ranged advs specialty, not true for support professions blessed with the same perk line as them. Crats aren't a specialized pistol wielding profession, instead of 80% def checks they need.. I don't know.. more XP boosts. And roots. **** adv doesn't get.Actually the checks should be the same, but if an adv is doing the damage the perks should hit for considerably more damage.
They're better than you are with pistols. It makes sense. Get with it. If anything open it up to Soldiers and Agents
Last edited by Mahdi007; Nov 14th, 2009 at 23:14:09.
We aren't?
Pistols are our ONLY supported weapon skill, and we aren't specialized? Advs have choices, crats don't.
Last edited by Sterva; Nov 14th, 2009 at 23:40:54.
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pistol perks for all profs should be 100%, engis/crats dont deserve them so easy any more then advys
Do so!
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That thing with stamina in AoC is fine as it is.
Don't get me wrong, crats are specialized, just not for weaponry. Hopefully you do get a boost, not an overpowering one but some kind of boost. All I'm saying is FC will most likely keep a crat a crat, and not turn it into a soldier with nukes and a pet. Although I'm sure that would be awesome, it's not intended. Advs will get worked out, don't try to use them as an excuse to overpower yourself.
With endgame gear and sacrificing nano skills for additional weapon skills, I don't even cap burst and AS recharge on pistols. Nor do I hit high multipliers or special AR with either.
Crats are no where near close to performing as well as Advs or Soldiers with pistols, and we are lightyears away from being 'soldiers with nukes and a pet.'
It's balanced at 80% (for support profs), really.
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Interesting thread, where DID you get this excellent idea from?
Kink, the ease of which Advies can land these perks, while in a HP or evade setup, with no real need to concentrate on AR, with all their other defensive tools, is stupid.
Which is why Advies should have 100% checks so they have to actually spend some effort into AR, instead of being able to sit around pre LE AR levels and perk almost everyone.
Why should other pistol users be denied access to some decent perk damage for weapons they have some support for, instead of crowbarring into soon to be nerfed AS reliant setups, just because the way Advies can make use of these perks currently is retardedly OP?
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Here I was, still thinking crats achieve similar levels of AR to pistol advies... Wasn't that the case, give or take ~100 depending on setup?
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