make -every- debuffs ingame removable with VS

[heartless888]

simple, the VS we use need to be used outside of combat already, so first thing they should do with the balance patch is make sure -every single- debuff is removable

i am talking about all of them, fixer debuff, CB, MP debuffs, -20 small ones, red tapes, malaise, ALL of them, there is no reason any of us should be debuffed for 5 min when we are completely out of combat and/or the target dies

or, also add a feature like with GTH right now (even though a bit glitchy) where if you kill a person who debuffed you, the debuffs go away, being debuffed by 1 player so that then you get owned by the next is kinda too much, then again, i guess its part of team play so i dont mind it *too* much, but my main point is making them going away with a normal VS, ALL of them, 0 exceptions

i am pretty sure everyone agrees

thank you.

[ameratsu]

simple, the VS we use need to be used outside of combat already, so first thing they should do with the balance patch is make sure -every single- debuff is removable

i am talking about all of them, fixer debuff, CB, MP debuffs, -20 small ones, red tapes, malaise, ALL of them, there is no reason any of us should be debuffed for 5 min when we are completely out of combat and/or the target dies

or, also add a feature like with GTH right now (even though a bit glitchy) where if you kill a person who debuffed you, the debuffs go away, being debuffed by 1 player so that then you get owned by the next is kinda too much, then again, i guess its part of team play so i dont mind it *too* much, but my main point is making them going away with a normal VS, ALL of them, 0 exceptions

i am pretty sure everyone agrees

thank you.

how can someone debuff an nr8 sold? u want godmode foreal? how about a -1200 runspeed on ams?

[Ixiaan]

how can someone debuff an nr8 sold? u want godmode foreal? how about a -1200 runspeed on ams?

Obviously the suggestion doesn't help NR8 solds so maybe you should get a clue before posting drivel on the forums? Your second to questions are also completely unrelated to the OP.

Bump for making all debuffs removable by VS.

[Kazeren]

how can someone debuff an nr8 sold? u want godmode foreal? how about a -1200 runspeed on ams?

Why are you whining, a NR8 sold can cast no buffs or AMS. Stop trying to troll.

[Klod9003]

Why are you whining, a NR8 sold can cast no buffs or AMS. Stop trying to troll.

He can be OSB'd.

[neverest]

Just make sure the virus scanner works on pets too.

[Ciex]

He can be OSB'd.

OSB'd with AMS?

[MassDebater]

Ask a sold what he would rather lose

Buffs+reflects+nano recharges


or AMS.



Answer enough.

[Klod9003]

OSB'd with AMS?

With RRFE, FAT, RC, HoTs, HP buffs, Assault Rifle Mastery/EP/Minor Suppressor...

Heck, this sounds interesting. Specialized trader/NT killer.

[Armus]

With RRFE, FAT, RC, HoTs, HP buffs, Assault Rifle Mastery/EP/Minor Suppressor...

Heck, this sounds interesting. Specialized trader/NT killer.

NT yes, trader no way. NR8 means poor attack rating. The trader will outheal and kill. Assuming they are both well equipped.

[heartless888]

NT yes, trader no way. NR8 means poor attack rating. The trader will outheal and kill. Assuming they are both well equipped.

3450 AR in NR8 says trader gets perked, thats without umbrela or crat or advy auras

[techprince]

What if one kites and go out of zone to remove debuffs?

[Klod9003]

What if one kites and go out of zone to remove debuffs?

You mean, it should not be possible to do so?

[Maxisolja]

I don't think every debuff should be removed with virus scanner.

But every debuff should be removable with some item while in combat. Something like FM Stims for everything that work in different ways. And items that give temporary resistance to certain effects.

Max of 3 uses to fully remove a debuff of a certain kind (and move FM/new crap to a different lockout)
Procs should be removed same as there associated type

Possible Different group:

Skill drains
AAO/AAD drains
GTH
Crat init debuffs
Doc init debuffs
Dot line A/B (Rods)
Dot line C
Evade debuffs
Roots/Snares (Rods/FM's atm)
Stuns (FM/motr atm)

Debuffs should also land relatively easy (getting harder to land the more times someone is effected by something would be best), NR mechanics need a complete overhaul anyways.

[Martialmad]

OP : This sounds good but that would only be a quick and cheap fix.
Some heavier job needs to be made on nano casting.
I still vote for the AoC system.

[Avari]

But every debuff should be removable with some item while in combat.

It'd be better to scale the duration with the power of the debuff, and make them removable outside of combat. I kinda like the idea of virus scanners dealing with all debuffs: and make it so you don't have to use several scanners, but just one. Make the execution longer if that's what you want, but having to use several scanners is just stupid.

Oh, and procs just need to be stuffed into the nearest dumpster - they're the worst idea anyone ever had for upgrading tool sets, and speaks of lack of imagination for extending tool sets in general.

[Ceenah2]

I can imaging how a lowbie MP feel when doing Mission and his pet get rooted/snared for 9min and the pet free nano is level lock @ 75. Hehehehe

[IHaveHugeNick]

Not while people can kill my dog and make me rebuff for 5 minutes.

[Kinkstaah]

Let it be usable in combat too, while standing.

[Insane666]

i would agree and bump this proposal, with one exception tho: eNSD should not be affected by Battle Station Battle Prepared Virus Scanner, alltho its a bit offtopic since you most likely had normal VS in mind, wich i dont mind removing eNSD at all, since it has a 15sec only dura anyways

while at it, allow us to use battle prepared VS outside BS aswell, to adress those situations when you manage to get away, but your enemy just keeps you infight to prevent you removing any debuffs, its not as common behavior as inside BS, but still