Defeat Righteousness - GTH, Borrow Reflect

[Righteous]

18.3 Update
Grand Theft Humidity and Borrow Reflect have been significantly altered as a first step in the balancing process for the Trader Profession.

So, you only balanced those Nemesis Nanos as part of the balancing process for the Trader Profession?

Does this mean you'll be looking at the other nemesis nanos only when they pertain to that specific profession's balancing effort?

Given that, would Defeat Righteousness only be fixed when looking at either the Keeper or the Shade balancing process?

Thanks for your reply.

[Darkirbiska1]

18.3 Update
Grand Theft Humidity and Borrow Reflect have been significantly altered as a first step in the balancing process for the Trader Profession.

So, you only balanced those Nemesis Nanos as part of the balancing process for the Trader Profession?

Does this mean you'll be looking at the other nemesis nanos only when they pertain to that specific profession's balancing effort?

Given that, would Defeat Righteousness only be fixed when looking at either the Keeper or the Shade balancing process?

Thanks for your reply.

Don't give up!
There is so many threads about this issue and it is still ignored by Funcom.
I will try catch Means online in game and ask him about it, forum seems to be weak for this.
cheers

[Wrangeline]

They are doing stuff one step at a time yeah. Will have to wait and see what happens with other nemesis nanos.

[Righteous]

They are doing stuff one step at a time yeah. Will have to wait and see what happens with other nemesis nanos.

That's too bad, I was hoping they were just taking action as soon as the issue was raised.

[Phargus]

Does this mean you'll be looking at the other nemesis nanos only when they pertain to that specific profession's balancing effort?

I believe means has said all the nemesis nanos will be looked at. The rebalancing is supposed to happen all at once, but I suppose they figured gth/br couldn't wait till then (which is kinda weird considering how long the were ingame in their previous state...)

[Koizumi]

But DR is not broken. It does what it says in desc, working as intended.

[NoGoal]

GTH and BR didn't?

[-Klod-]

But they were plain OP'd (and still are), when compared to DR.

[Provision]

DR does exactly what the description says. As stated by others, be happy your nemesis doesn't have ams for 5 minutes and can debuff -1000 skill.

[Darkirbiska1]

DR does exactly what the description says. As stated by others, be happy your nemesis doesn't have ams for 5 minutes and can debuff -1000 skill.

And you haven't gotten it yet. Keepers can get really high evades with procs and some gimp shades can't even perk them without auras, but it is about fun---time of pvping full buffed vs time rebuffing + spam-ability of DR.

[Phargus]

Point is, DR isn't used as a combat debuff but as a grief tool and keepers are understandably upset about it. Change it to an aao/aad debuff instead and problem solved...

[Boltgun]

Point is, DR isn't used as a combat debuff but as a grief tool and keepers are understandably upset about it. Change it to an aao/aad debuff instead and problem solved...

Or simply make them cancel the buffs and not the original nanos.

While other nanos are/were OP, this one gets the prize as being the dick nano who doesn't even debuff in the short term (healing maybe) but simply cancel minutes of casting. Balance and fun!

Edit :

DR does exactly what the description says. As stated by others, be happy your nemesis doesn't have ams for 5 minutes and can debuff -1000 skill.

5 minutes of AMS and piercing nerves being useful, made my evening.

[Notcrattey]

Just make DR remove the buff and not the base nano, boom done.

[Josephina]

Just make DR remove the buff and not the base nano, boom done.

and have DR still cast the 15s block nano so the buff parts won't refresh during 15 seconds. Still majorly disrupting for the keeper (also still one of the more powerful nemesis nanos), but atleast not so mindnumbingly frustrating for the keeper anymore.

While other nanos are/were OP, this one gets the prize as being the dick nano who doesn't even debuff in the short term (healing maybe) but simply cancel minutes of casting. Balance and fun!

That DR only removed and blocked the base buffs of the auras has been changed a long time ago already, now it removes and blocks both base and buff parts of those auras.

[Ocene]

18.3 Update
Grand Theft Humidity and Borrow Reflect have been significantly altered as a first step in the balancing process for the Trader Profession.

So, you only balanced those Nemesis Nanos as part of the balancing process for the Trader Profession?

Does this mean you'll be looking at the other nemesis nanos only when they pertain to that specific profession's balancing effort?

Given that, would Defeat Righteousness only be fixed when looking at either the Keeper or the Shade balancing process?

Thanks for your reply.

They made an amazing first good step.. one that needed immediate attention. The rest of the rebalancing is Inc-Soon(TM).

I'd be patient, these guys are taking the right decisions.

[elsaa2]

Yesterday Im was bored and i log my keeper for some bs fun (yeah i didnt see any shade around :P) it was a nice 5 min pvp till a shade show up (in enemies side i mean) and the nightmare starts, after 3 full recast of auras (in like 10 min, u kown its cast---> insta DR, cast ----> insta DR)im was in C fighting and that shade comes cast DR again and run out im tried to go behind him but keeper RS doesnt work like that :P, after he zoned i got a tell with (hehe u got pissed?) that its the way they play, after that i just didnt recast auras and run around 4 caping, thats its why when u go to bs7 u can see a lots of soldiers, nts, crat, some docs,... but 0 keepers, after that i log off my keeper and maybe i will pvp again in few months, and yes we are waiting too long for an answer to this

[Righteous]

Yesterday Im was bored and i log my keeper for some bs fun (yeah i didnt see any shade around :P) it was a nice 5 min pvp till a shade show up (in enemies side i mean) and the nightmare starts, after 3 full recast of auras (in like 10 min, u kown its cast---> insta DR, cast ----> insta DR)im was in C fighting and that shade comes cast DR again and run out im tried to go behind him but keeper RS doesnt work like that :P, after he zoned i got a tell with (hehe u got pissed?) that its the way they play, after that i just didnt recast auras and run around 4 caping, thats its why when u go to bs7 u can see a lots of soldiers, nts, crat, some docs,... but 0 keepers, after that i log off my keeper and maybe i will pvp again in few months, and yes we are waiting too long for an answer to this

Maybe we should just start 4 capping and ruining the "pvp" fun?

[Senggum]

Nemesis nanos should all be thrown in the trash... don't even bother rethinking them they were a bad idea to begin with. No 1 profession should have an advantage over another of this nature.

[Righteous]

Nemesis nanos should all be thrown in the trash... don't even bother rethinking them they were a bad idea to begin with. No 1 profession should have an advantage over another of this nature.

It's really true, I think they should've taken it to the High road of having ALLY nanos, where you can help a specific profession.

[elsaa2]

Maybe we should just start 4 capping and ruining the "pvp" fun?

If i go full defensive gear i dont need that auras for easy cap :P,i dont like 4 cap but i just did that 'cos what else i can do in that round with a shade in my ass casting DR all the time? i dont insta die with that nemesis nano lands ok, but i cant pvp (i cant perk anyone, i cant kill anyone, i cant play like a support prof healing around,no keeper aruas so u cant help a team with that, i cant debuff...) so what else? just 4 cap.