Mas and Attack Rating

[McKnuckleSamwich]

3200 AR, 80% perks, do the maths.

thats not the issue.

The issue is you being in range of them with 80% checking perks and buttloads of AR and defence, while they're not even CLOSE to in range of you, and you have no way to kill them... period.

equals fail.

[Kazeran]

thats not the issue.

The issue is you being in range of them with 80% checking perks and buttloads of AR and defence, while they're not even CLOSE to in range of you, and you have no way to kill them... period.

equals fail.

- Many melee-range damage perk specials have received an increased range.

From the perk change documents. This would mean that your argument will be invalid once the changes are mad and that problem will be fixed.

[McKnuckleSamwich]

- Many melee-range damage perk specials have received an increased range.

From the perk change documents. This would mean that your argument will be invalid once the changes are mad and that problem will be fixed.

werd.

[Dollcet]

MA Perks alone without being in Range to bash the Target wont kill anybody besides some poor greens.

[Koizumi]

"I want more AR because people are out of range" is what I read somewhere in this thread.

Indeed. You can have 1000000 AR, but as long as ur outta range and sapp aint hitting triples, it wont do us much good.

[Mostadio]

So what you're saying is... MAs need pistol perks?

[Koizumi]

So what you're saying is... MAs need pistol perks?

KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA (vel pistol perks for MA!)

Btw. i also postulate for IU to be an MA nano....NT's stole the technique from Goku! :<

[McKnuckleSamwich]

MA's don't need pistol perks. But, PVP MA's need abow setup and support that would actually work.

fist PVPing MA's are out of range 99% of the time. It's not fun.

[Daggzz]

Bow MA works already in pvp.

[McKnuckleSamwich]

Bow MA works already in pvp.

orly!

enlighten me how you kill a doctor/engineer/enforcer/Agent/loladvy/soldier/MP/Fixer/NT/Trader etc. with a bow?

ASing every 11 seconds and less perk damage than a level 100 shade just doesn't cut it I'm sorry to say.

[Daggzz]

enlighten me how you kill a doctor/engineer/enforcer/Agent/loladvy/soldier/MP/Fixer/NT/Trader etc. with a bow?

Like you would with anything, inflict damage.

[McKnuckleSamwich]

oh. why didn't I think of that

[Koizumi]

orly!

enlighten me how you kill a doctor/engineer/enforcer/Agent/loladvy/soldier/MP/Fixer/NT/Trader etc. with a bow?

ASing every 11 seconds and less perk damage than a level 100 shade just doesn't cut it I'm sorry to say.

Why dont you ask NeQQoz?

Like you would with anything, inflict damage.

Hahahah oh lol, seriously, thank you sir for cheering me up @ the beginning of this miserably slow day <3!

[McKnuckleSamwich]

Why dont you ask NeQQoz?

I think our beloved forumz troll left game because he tried really hard to make a MA viable in mass pvp and bows+Ma fails?

I haven't seen him around for a while.

/ask Neqqoz: how do you kill people with a bow?

[Mostadio]

ASing every 11 seconds and less perk damage than a level 100 shade just doesn't cut it I'm sorry to say.

Sounds like my engineer.

[agentwolve]

hmm ytrinirt does ok as a ranged MA, infact he said he enjoys it alot more then melee

for some reason i dont think MA's our the problem here are they, knucklehead

[Weltall]

If someone dies to a ranged MA, I think it's time they hit up the inf missions there and level up a bit.

[mr_road]

- Many melee-range damage perk specials have received an increased range.

From the perk change documents. This would mean that your argument will be invalid once the changes are mad and that problem will be fixed.

MA ones get 5m range.

[Daggzz]

If someone dies to a ranged MA, I think it's time they hit up the inf missions there and level up a bit.

You going to say that to a crat? Because they don't have healing, or any real defenses against capping ASes.

[Weltall]

Really can't be 100% certain on that but I think I'd bet on a crat being the the winner in a bow MA vs crat scenario but really, other than that, what can you kill with 11s AS alone? Shades I guess will be the only other thing you might be able to kill and that's about it really...