Null Space Disruptor

[Shareida]

Shar, he is not joking. I killed a 220 soldier in BS with my pets alone in about that time (prolly longer though) with Don at 216. And you know how gimped he is. NSD is extremely powerful vs soldiers. He couldnt have been a very good soldier, but then again I was an extremely crappy engie and 4 levels below. Granted knowledge of profession and general PvP tactics do play a role, but not that much.

Fair enough. Still wonder why he didn't just ran away.

For my part, I stopped casting BR on soldiers, unless i was missing RRFE. The 1 second casting time does not justify using it anymore.

I seriously do not think that removing all possible ways to properly counter AMS will lead to any balanced PvP. My educated guess is, that after NSD is nerfed, Soldiers will want more NR, and more of them will train Notum Repulsor 1 or 2.

Good pvp evolves around using the right tool at the right time. That being said, I think that tools should be very effective, but not usable indefinitely.

BR should have gotten a 2 minute lockout, not a nerf to uselessness. I hope FC will consider this in regard of Engies NSD.

[Genie]

Fair enough. Still wonder why he didn't just ran away.

Simple lack of PvP experience maybe? My guess is as good as yours.

[Stigman]

This still being discussed?

*THREAD CLOSED*

[Shareida]

Simple lack of PvP experience maybe? My guess is as good as yours.

So we can conclude, that this soldier was the problem, not NSD.

To get a bit off topic here, if I play a caster in GW, and get chain-knowdowned by a melee, I avoid him, and continue killing other stuff.

If i am an Melee class, and get a debuff on me making me damage myself each time I attack, I wait it out or run away.


The point with shamelessly advertising another game here is to show, that no class should stand out of the crowd by having no weak spots.

[Marinegent]

So we can conclude, that this soldier was the problem, not NSD.

Sometimes just running away isn't always an option. Engineers run faster than my soldier does.

I know because i've come out of decon with karst or mostiado camping me at the respawn point. Which say's many, many things about how off balance engi's are against soldiers.

Look, many soldiers in this thread are blowing it out of proportion. The fact of the matter is that NSD doesn't need removing, just tweaking.

Less debuff with less duration and less spam-ability would do wonders for soldiers while still giving engi's the advantage in almost all scenario's due to the nature of an engineer's special absorbing defense nearly negating the core of a soldiers offensive toolset.

You'll still beat most soldiers if they don't have a clue. It just gives the few of us who do a little more than "m,v" and AMS a chance to at least get away, or not die in seconds that you can count on your 2 hands.

[Brofist]

Sometimes just running away isn't always an option. Engineers run faster than my soldier does.

My Engineer has an amazing 1900 RS. I wonder how you can't out run that.

[Marinegent]

My Engineer has an amazing 1900 RS. I wonder how you can't out run that.

Ive got about the same.

[Mostadio]

My Engineer has an amazing 1900 RS. I wonder how you can't out run that.

Same. The main difference is I'm usually teamed with my gf on her advy. I hate being slow.

[NoGoal]

a 216 engi has 5 blockers every 50 seconds, that musta been one gimp ass soldier... (7x30 spec blockers are 218+)

My 216 engi has 7 blockers every 60s!

But yeah I'm all up to nerf NSD if they also nerf reflects in general and add more ways to deal against them.

[Ellarisa]

oh right, those retarded team spec blockers, i forgot those >.<
those are easier to break through though since it is visible when they refresh.

in 50 seconds an AR soldier does 11 specials ( 13 in 60 seconds), so either way it's enough for the soldier to do 6 specials after killing blockers, which should leave the engi with very little in the way of defense left (if he's even still alive).

the problem in that case seems to be more that the soldier is an idiot then the engi being OP.

doniger: how in the hell do you get 9? O.o

Greetings,



Ellarisa

[Ocene]

My Engineer has an amazing 1900 RS. I wonder how you can't out run that.

Same. The main difference is I'm usually teamed with my gf on her advy. I hate being slow.

My engi has 2055 RS self. With a right wrist implant (Pistol, AS, FS). So maybe you guys have a custom left wrist implant? I'm using a Alpha control LW there, as well as in Legs. I use, however, a Cloak of the Ranger. Don't know what you use.. probably a eRBP?

My soldier on the other hand has 1980 RS. And if I gave up 29 HD, I could get to 2038.

That's without Playful Cub graft for both professions btw.

OK, all in all both profession RS sucks as any of my other 220s is at 2100-2200 minimum RS hands down.

[Ocene]

oh right, those retarded team spec blockers, i forgot those >.<
those are easier to break through though since it is visible when they refresh.

in 50 seconds an AR soldier does 11 specials ( 13 in 60 seconds), so either way it's enough for the soldier to do 6 specials after killing blockers, which should leave the engi with very little in the way of defense left (if he's even still alive).

the problem in that case seems to be more that the soldier is an idiot then the engi being OP.

doniger: how in the hell do you get 9? O.o

Greetings,



Ellarisa

Wait.. Are you actually implying that a soldier has a chance whatsoever in a 1v1 against an engi?

[Ellarisa]

i was talking about a 216 engi here, not a 220.
against a 216 they deff have a chance if they know what they're doing.
Greetings,



Ellarisa

[Megasis]

There are toons at 216 that can out run Capped RS 220 toons. Happens all the time on BS.

[Livesangry]

There are toons at 216 that can out run Capped RS 220 toons. Happens all the time on BS.

There are lvl 200 toons who can outrun lvl 220's, just throw em GSF. but ontopic, your post is completely inrelevant.

[crattey]

There are lvl 200 toons who can outrun lvl 220's, just throw em GSF. but ontopic, your post is completely inrelevant.

Welcome to the AO forums!

[Megasis]

hmm

[Genie]

doniger: how in the hell do you get 9? O.o

Sorry. Typo. It was 6. The RK blockers.

[Boltgun]

You all (solds or not) assume that ams and reflects will make it unchanged. This made this thread quite useless.

[crattey]

You all (solds or not) assume that ams and reflects will make it unchanged. This made this thread quite useless.

Meaning it fits in rather well with every other thread in here.