Sitting in duels

[-Klod-]

Good.

[Knarre]

It will be. You, as a soldier, will be able to use root graft on people that use this tactic.

You can just hit Q to start attacking again and stand up though.

[Odov]

Sitting while not in combat to increase HD makes sense.. You are resting, you heal faster. Hard to rest when someone is repeatedly shooting you in the head.

[erozc]

Sitting in duels - while something I, and certainly any half-good PvPer (not claiming I am one) have used to their advantage - is hardly skillful. Same goes for sitting in a BS skirmish too.

So, yeah. Sitting = evades to 0, AAD to 0, inflict -200 crit decrease as well.

[Graftmage]

As that is going to be solved with 80% capped reflects and 40 secs AMS

No it wont :P Still impossible to kill soldier during AMS. So, 40 seconds sitting it is.

Sitting in duels - while something I, and certainly any half-good PvPer (not claiming I am one) have used to their advantage - is hardly skillful. Same goes for sitting in a BS skirmish too.

So, yeah. Sitting = evades to 0, AAD to 0, inflict -200 crit decrease as well.

Sitting has the greatest penalty of all - 0 damage.

[Nevo-RK3]

Well sitting to increase HD still is needed in some hardcore duels, and it is a legal tactic so far. IF it gets changed, there has to be something that makes up for it in my eyes, because otherwise it is just another nerf for profs that do rely on it.

I KNOW that the occasions where you need to sit are rare, but there are some, and taking that away is just another unneeded nerf!! I DO understand it doesnt look right, but it still gives you an option, a choice, an alternative...

As i see it, the ballancing is all about minimizing our options, making pvp not only boring, but also uncreative and childish. If everything is getting easier and repetitive due to limited tactics and options, we will soon have scifi wow here, instead of our good old complex AO!

[Blackcradle]

How many times has it been said in every way shape and form that this game isn't balanced and never will be balanced around duels. Soldiers never cease to find something to cry about I guess...

[Ocene]

Soldiers never cease to find something to cry about I guess...

Given the HD that will be given to us, all we gotta do as soldiers is sit down, while you will wonder why in hell you just wasted that alpha.

I suspect you will be the one that will QQ about this.. not us .

[sultryvoltron]

No it wont :P Still impossible to kill soldier during AMS. So, 40 seconds sitting it is.



Sitting has the greatest penalty of all - 0 damage.

In certain circumstances where you would be doing essentially 0 damage even if you were standing, then there really is no penalty is there?

[Kinkstaah]

Sitting down is so epically stupid it really doesnt warrant any real discussion.

[Graftmage]

In certain circumstances where you would be doing essentially 0 damage even if you were standing, then there really is no penalty is there?

These situation should just not happen.

Sitting down is so epically stupid it really doesnt warrant any real discussion.

/afk

[Ninjaloot]

I think they should fix RK first aid stims to be more like the SL ones. Better healing power that you actually need to make a logical choice before going into first aid lock recharge.

Sitting is dumb, imo. The heal delta should remain, but there should be drawbacks for gaining the increased HD tick. Setting AAD and Evades to 0 seems about right.

[erozc]

Sitting has the greatest penalty of all - 0 damage.

If your opponent sits, just sit too and use treatment kits, Do not be upset, just be quick and use the break from beeing attacked to your advantage!

These statements are not entirely correct. There are 3 professions against which the first is not correct and the second not possible. Figuring these out is left as an exercise.

[delsabre]

I think AO is the only game where sitting down is sometimes a better option than actually kiting or trying to LoS the opponent.

[Boltgun]

I think AO is the only game where sitting down is sometimes a better option than actually kiting or trying to LoS the opponent.

AO must be the only game I saw so far when sitting you have all your defenses working for you.

I'd say don't give the HD bonus when under attack but that mechanic is broken to hell. Sitting should at least kill evades and reflect.

[MajorOutage]

Bump.

PvP in this game has the most retarded mechanics.

[Esproc]

0[/B] damage.

You can still queue offensive perks that don't require a fighting target.
As well as items like the IS nuke ring and etc.
So hypothetically you could kill someone while sitting.

Easiest fix is to disable sitting while in combat, and then drop sitting requirement from battle prepared kits.

Battle prepared kits/first aid stims are then your "extra healing" while in fight, as intended.

[Vurtuoso]

You can still queue offensive perks that don't require a fighting target.
As well as items like the IS nuke ring and etc.
So hypothetically you could kill someone while sitting.

Easiest fix is to disable sitting while in combat, and then drop sitting requirement from battle prepared kits.

Battle prepared kits/first aid stims are then your "extra healing" while in fight, as intended.

I like this concept. Easy to implement.

[Tinypain]

I'm all for nerfing evades and a big +crit chance increase for attackers. Don't remove HD...it's still very functional if you can sit out of LoS and that is totally plausible. However if you sit infront of someone yeah...they should be able to 100% crit you if you sit more than a few seconds. I say a few seconds because you shouldn't be penalized for using battle prepared kits.

[vios]

I might be wrong but I though that sitting already increased the crit and hit chance (and agro)