Permanent removal of buffs

[RmikClan]

I duelled loads of docs. Do you know how many times i saw it landing? 2

And LOL Try hit someone with 2.3k AR

made several test with all kinds of setups and tactics and the proc would almost always land in the first 60 secs of fight no matter what would do so unless u dueling evades docs that shouldnt happen...

.that doesnt even make sence....i with my ofab tiger 1.5k AR land ubt proc a LOT even on evade profs and i dont land any regular hit....and u on DOCs which u dueled "LOADS" only landed the proc twice in all your duels......yeh SURE! either u are lying or u dueled very few docs so stop with the bull****

theres also the option that all docs finish u so fast that u dont even have time to land the proc.....if thats the case the meh....a top mp vs doc duel lasts for a long time

[RmikClan]

You sir are an idiot.

P.S.
Sorry Ana, I had to. See you in two days.

An answer: Tigress MP is not a dual wieldable pistol crat, it's the lowest AR profession out there that can miss even on docs and besides, there's only 1 NSD proc, not 2, it stops only casting (as opposed to stuns, even though, some docs have way over 2k nano skills, so they can still cast something), it's LE10 research proc, meaning not every MP has it. Relying on 1 hit every 11 sec, to land a 5% proc is far from something a doc should really worry about. In a far less words, it's silly.

Anyways, bringing 1on1 situations into discussions like this, has poor chance of making your point valid in this particular case.

most docs have 2.2k BM/MM that leaves us with 200 nanoskills which isnt enough for anything i know its just 1 proc im just used to speak procs in plural cause of the ubt procs...i know not every MP has it and that not the point....its not 1 hit every 11 secs and u know it

[XenonDe]

Geez... Get a room. Or just accept you're not going to agree on this point. This discussion doesn't seem to be about the removal of buffs (which not only docs get but also fixers and ranged energy perk) anymore.

[RmikClan]

Geez... Get a room. Or just accept you're not going to agree on this point. This discussion doesn't seem to be about the removal of buffs (which not only docs get but also fixers and ranged energy perk) anymore.

and solds with hellfury swap (which is even worst since it removes nanos up to 45 ncu removes rrfes for example and even worst removes some cooldowns that isnt supposed to)

[lainbr]

I dont wanna feed the troll but... I duelled many docs, and all with NSD proc running. Most I won, some I lost. And after every single duel I asked: "Did the proc landed?" The answer: "Nope"

On topic: Remove of Buffs is a BAD thing. But since most buffs are getting more NCU cost, I cant say if its really OP.

[n3oheals]

Well, just to troll a bit there is another thing that removes all buffs. And especialy the new Doc HoT's.

It's called time...

So lets remove time from the game, its OP.

Now stop whining and accept that you might have to recast a nano or two. With the added NCU cost to buffs its not gonna be more then that.

[-Klod-]

Now stop whining and accept that you might have to recast a nano or two. With the added NCU cost to buffs its not gonna be more then that.

No thanks.

I'll whine as much as I want, because there's simply no good enough excuse to let this nano hit live after rebalance, not with such low NR check.

Sure, you (that other troll in this case, not specifically you) can pull out stupid comparison with 1on1 situations and lol-stun procs/NSD proc, but it won't change the fact that permanent removal of buffs (with such ease) is something wrong and unacceptable for the, so called, post-rebalanced AO.

[n3oheals]

No thanks.

I'll whine as much as I want, because there's simply no good enough excuse to let this nano hit live after rebalance, not with such low NR check.

Sure, you (that other troll in this case, not specifically you) can pull out stupid comparison with 1on1 situations and lol-stun procs/NSD proc, but it won't change the fact that permanent removal of buffs (with such ease) is something wrong and unacceptable for the, so called, post-rebalanced AO.

So can you explain to me WHY its unacceptable? Since I can't find any good reasons. And since the rebalancing will make doctors recast everything 4 times each minute why is it unacceptable that other don't? In the case that a doc has time to cast EP on you which is unlikely anyway.

[-Klod-]

So can you explain to me WHY its unacceptable?

Because it removes buffs permanently (not only self buffs are targeted).

I, for example, don't think it's right for a doc to remove external root resistance buff from my NCU for good (or until I find advie to beg for one again).

People here agreed that it would be right if it just "grayed" out some of them for the time duration and that's fine. Permanent removal of, not one, but up to 5 of them is simply wrong.

[Shareida]

I support any tools permanently removing Klods.

[-Klod-]

Please, go erupt or sumtin.

[n3oheals]

Klod: the fact that permanent removal of buffs (with such ease) is something wrong and unacceptable

Me: So can you explain to me WHY its unacceptable?

klod: Because it removes buffs permanently (not only self buffs are targeted).

Me: Still dont know why its unacceptable. I understand it's not what you or some others like because it might destroy your OSB (OMG the drama) but still no reason why it's unacceptable.
Some professions rely on pasive defense and buffs for survival and some on active defense such as heals. Now if one of those two is getting nerfed then why not the other too? Seems balanced to me.

[Blackcradle]

Maybe one deserves to be nerfed and the other doesn't? Is that truly beyond the limits of your imagination?

[-Klod-]

Klod: the fact that permanent removal of buffs (with such ease) is something wrong and unacceptable

Me: So can you explain to me WHY its unacceptable?

klod: Because it removes buffs permanently (not only self buffs are targeted).

Well, duh. How can permanent removal of buffs be acceptable?

[Shareida]

Well, duh. How can permanent removal of buffs be acceptable?

I think it is unethical, that special attacks permanently remove my HP.

[Manaas]

if that happened you would have negative hp

[Mostadio]

if that happened you would have negative hp

That tends to be the goal in pvp, yes...

[RmikClan]

Well, duh. How can permanent removal of buffs be acceptable?

i have no reasoning skills but i like to think that if i write with big letters other people will maybe think im right

[Manaas]

That tends to be the goal in pvp, yes...

but having permanent negative hp would mean you would be dead constantly which is no fun.

[-Klod-]

I think it is unethical, that special attacks permanently remove my HP.

Make a thread about it.

i have no reasoning skills but i like to think that if i write with big letters other people will maybe think im right

No worries mate. In your case, they won't, no matter what you do.