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Thread: Monthly Development Update - August 2014

  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Esssch View Post
    You also get paid roughly 49% more per hour. Why should we get paid less than the UK simply because of geographical location? We have the largest economy in the world, we should be paid more. Wahwahwah. It's been how many years since Europeans brought up the price disparity? It hasn't changed yet, even when you try to change almost every thread into a whinefest about it. Either pay the money or don't pay it, either way please stop QQ'ing, you crybabies.
    If we're going off how much the minimum wage is in an area to base the subscription cost, like you said, Georgia would have a very low sub. But that's a moot point since EVERY OTHER MMO IN EXISTENCE ADHERES TO ROUGH EXCHANGE RATES ACROSS CONTINENTS. Why doesn't AO?

    Also nice job devolving your argument into baseless namecalling.

    Btw China has the largest economy in the world.
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  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Raggy View Post
    But that's a moot point since EVERY OTHER MMO IN EXISTENCE ADHERES TO ROUGH EXCHANGE RATES ACROSS CONTINENTS. Why doesn't AO?
    Because they don't have to?

    Same reason you can buy the same pair of pants in an outlet store for less than a department store? Where you shop (Europe) has higher avg income so you can afford to pay more? Maybe to pay for some extra import taxes that were part of the original boxed set before client download was available? Who knows.

    All speculation on my part.
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  3. #223
    It seems to me many who are opposing to the idea of new paying subscription model are not aware, or did not includes the current situation at Funcom and AO.
    So please kindly allow me to reminds you regarding a few things that you needs to take into considerations to understands why my focus is with changing a new subscriptions, and not with the game mechanism at this point:

    * Most of Funcom board members (the one`s who decides who is going to be Funcom CEO) dont care about AO. All they cares about is Funcom market share value goes up.

    * Many previous key Funcom developers gave up their hopes with AO and Funcom as a game developer company, and have left the building. Including founder of Funcom, and the main driver of AO, Gaute Godager. He left Funcom on September 17, 2008.

    * Todays AO developers team are much smaller and inexperienced compares to the old team, which obviously struggling with: 1. experience to develop AO into a healthy mmorpg. 2. Time to resolves problems within AO

    As you can see, Funcom is running out of time, they barely have time for anything else.
    The new engine and NPE dont have eta or release date, and if Funcom announce the engine and NPE will be ready within 1 year. There is still a chance for that date to be cancelled, and escalate for another year.
    If you hope for AO to revives and population will rise by waiting for Funcom to make AO better game experience after releasing NPE and new engine. There is a huge chance for you to be disappointed.

    Funcom needs to spend their time and prioritize their resources efficient, if they want to save AO.

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  4. #224
    Well today i got a mail from FC regarding TSW:

    "Title: Help us improve TSW

    Please take part in this survey so we can get your feedback on The Secret World.
    By completing the short survey before the end of September you will receive $5 worth of Bonus Points which can be used in the in-game Item Shop."

    We know where our subs will get funnelled as usual ..
    Why?

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Merit View Post
    [*]Means bailed, saw writing on wall, left while still had rep/prospects.
    He had grand visions, though no FC support. (he had no means! Sorry, had to...) He's at Bioware atm, prolly telling amusing anecdotes about how FC did things: "So this one time, I said we had a new engine, and they like believed me!"^^
    Just this part kind of proofs that you have no damn clue about anything
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  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Iriche View Post
    Just this part kind of proofs that you have no damn clue about anything
    omg you guys are totally lying! I wanna be with Bioware too
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  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Raggy View Post
    If we're going off how much the minimum wage is in an area to base the subscription cost, like you said, Georgia would have a very low sub. But that's a moot point since EVERY OTHER MMO IN EXISTENCE ADHERES TO ROUGH EXCHANGE RATES ACROSS CONTINENTS. Why doesn't AO?

    Also nice job devolving your argument into baseless namecalling.

    Btw China has the largest economy in the world.
    We're not going off of anything. Neither you nor I have any influence over the situation, I simply pointed out a glaring flaw in your logic. Why can't you understand that? The last 6 years of "Europeans pay more when converted straight across, wahhhh" has gotten old and still hasn't changed a single thing. It's time to stop whining about it or stop paying. Though if you stop paying, I'm sure we'd all also appreciate if you stopped whining about it.

    Also, no, China doesn't. The US has a GDP of $17.3 trillion USD. China has a GDP $9.18 trillion USD. They've still got some catching up to do, though I'm sure they will before too long. Since you made the claim, I'd expect you to post some sources, but instead I'll help you out so you don't have to and source my own claim. Listed by GDP nominal, where the EU has to combine 28 countries' GDP to barely come out ahead. And here it is listed by GDP PPP.

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Raggy View Post
    Btw China has the largest economy in the world.

    No they don't, not even close. The EU is higher if you consider it collectively. By actual country, the USA is by far the largest.

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Esssch View Post
    We're not going off of anything. Neither you nor I have any influence over the situation, I simply pointed out a glaring flaw in your logic. Why can't you understand that? The last 6 years of "Europeans pay more when converted straight across, wahhhh" has gotten old and still hasn't changed a single thing. It's time to stop whining about it or stop paying. Though if you stop paying, I'm sure we'd all also appreciate if you stopped whining about it.
    That's just the thing though, alot of Europeans have already stopped paying, it's a huge contributing factor to the slow decline of the game during European hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Esssch View Post
    Also, no, China doesn't. The US has a GDP of $17.3 trillion USD. China has a GDP $9.18 trillion USD. They've still got some catching up to do, though I'm sure they will before too long. Since you made the claim, I'd expect you to post some sources, but instead I'll help you out so you don't have to and source my own claim. Listed by GDP nominal, where the EU has to combine 28 countries' GDP to barely come out ahead. And here it is listed by GDP PPP.
    Quote Originally Posted by haxi View Post
    No they don't, not even close. The EU is higher if you consider it collectively. By actual country, the USA is by far the largest.
    You're right, my mistake. I was thinking back to an article I read a few months back which when I looked at it again was projecting the GDP growth in 2045.
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  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Raggy View Post
    That's just the thing though, alot of Europeans have already stopped paying, it's a huge contributing factor to the slow decline of the game during European hours.
    Using this logic, US hours should be a bustling hive of activity.


    Spoiler alert: They're not. US primetime died long before EU primetime.

  11. #231
    Sorry to interrupt and spoiling the fun but USA have the largest external debt in the history of existence of living organism and mankind with a total of 17,754,467,569,229.71,- USD. Double extrenal debt than the next country in the list of "World largest debt".
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  12. #232
    The USA is #1 at big numbers. Especially our military, which outclasses every other military in existence combined by several factors. Some countries actually don't have a military at all and rely on the US to provide their military defense.

    Not like debt means much on that scale, though. If people tried to collect on that debt they would irrevocably demolish the world economy. People don't think about it much, but the world economy basically revolves around the USA.

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  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by UNIDENTIFIED
    Sorry to interrupt and spoiling the fun but USA have the largest external debt in the history of existence of living organism and mankind with a total of 17,754,467,569,229.71,- USD. Double extrenal debt than the next country in the list of "World largest debt".
    +1. I don't think they can recover it even if they recup all the money they borrowed to other country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Esssch View Post
    We're not going off of anything. Neither you nor I have any influence over the situation, I simply pointed out a glaring flaw in your logic. Why can't you understand that? The last 6 years of "Europeans pay more when converted straight across, wahhhh" has gotten old and still hasn't changed a single thing. It's time to stop whining about it or stop paying. Though if you stop paying, I'm sure we'd all also appreciate if you stopped whining about it.

    Also, no, China doesn't. The US has a GDP of $17.3 trillion USD. China has a GDP $9.18 trillion USD. They've still got some catching up to do, though I'm sure they will before too long. Since you made the claim, I'd expect you to post some sources, but instead I'll help you out so you don't have to and source my own claim. Listed by GDP nominal, where the EU has to combine 28 countries' GDP to barely come out ahead. And here it is listed by GDP PPP.
    25% ish of USA debt is held by China?
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    This conversation is straying way too close to political talk. We do not allow that as it leads to name calling and bickering over ideals. Keep on task
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  16. #236
    AO struggles with 4 major problem at this moment:

    1) Lack of real information. There is big spread betwean what they promise/put on hard date, and what is really going on. We all have seen it with 18.7, NPE, new engine. Because players reall pay for the game, highest fee on market, they easli cancel subs when they feel being lied by FC.

    2) New Engine is under develompent so many years, that most just dont believe it will come anyway. I don't say it's false - but I know there are big chances, it will never come out. Last trailer/movie was like 2 years ago, screens... almost year. Engine it self is'nt new at this point - it may revieve graphics a bit, but it wont shake the ground of AO. Knowing problems FC had with it, I doubt this will be any improvement to the current state engine is on Live.

    3) For the most part I am annoyed how easy "fun stuff" gets to the game, like charis, cartoon boxes as a gear, Santa hats and all this stuff which reminds me of a theme park game instead of Sci-Fi. While they don't want to balance twings out in middle/early part of the game, when new players seeks "justice", and don't find it (talk to a trader who starts leveling and he was teamed with enf using Howlet or Panther... or better.. don't). Work FC has put into those funny stuff keeps me thinking they do it, just to work on something, because "serious" things are overhelming them to point, when they don't want to act at all

    4) Fee it self. It is fact that its most expensive game to play at this moment. Its a fact, that many players own 2 or more accounts, and if they want to play on desired leve (dualloging for buff purposes, trade, farming ect) they need spend lots of real money (and EU users even more). GRACE itself could help them, but what with casual ones?

    Since 4 (5?) years FC didn't give ANY (basicly) ANY free time, so marketing failure to attract newcomers is at best - how one can get into SL, taste the world, AI invasion, gear and dvantages, if he FIRST must pay 22$... knowing nothing about game? I remember, when free month was up, most of my orgmates returned to see new things/functions or just to reconsider returning to the game - from 10people, avarge, 3-4 stayed longer then this free month.

    Also - there was huge boost after merge in server population, which - in fact - could give more returning players.
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  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Bekrowe View Post
    This conversation is straying way too close to political talk. We do not allow that as it leads to name calling and bickering over ideals. Keep on task
    gee wiz, this thread sounds like a 'The Secret World' propaganda advertisement.

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Pomidor View Post
    3) For the most part I am annoyed how easy "fun stuff" gets to the game, like charis, cartoon boxes as a gear, Santa hats and all this stuff which reminds me of a theme park game instead of Sci-Fi. While they don't want to balance twings out in middle/early part of the game, when new players seeks "justice", and don't find it (talk to a trader who starts leveling and he was teamed with enf using Howlet or Panther... or better.. don't). Work FC has put into those funny stuff keeps me thinking they do it, just to work on something, because "serious" things are overhelming them to point, when they don't want to act at all
    Yeah, it seems they work on stuff that can be in itemshop, not actually 'gamestuff'.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45H25Sc6fig something 2 think about.

  19. #239
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