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    Mantis Den annoyance.

    Okay, highest part of the Mantis Den really needs some improvements to make the daily less of a pain.

    1) The dungeon needs a level 200 level cap. The daily is for level 150-200 players. It's a massive pain to have a 220 faceroll the whole area ahead of you, so you get to sit and wait what seems like an eternity for respawns, only to have another 220 come in after you and faceroll past your progress in the daily, thus clearing the whole dungeon past where you currently are. The entire daily has just become "group AFKs while 220 does all the work". Some of us actually do the mission on our own without outside help, and we're punished for it because of other players' laziness.

    2) The respawns on both the trash Mantises and the Queen need to be adjusted. This ties into the first issue. Once a 220 facerolls the area, you get to sit and wait forever for the respawns, and then you get to the queen, said 220 takes her down in 15-20 seconds, and then you have a 30-minute wait while staring the next 220 down hoping you can outdamage him when she respawns, which you obviously can't.

    It's getting really aggravating having to deal with these issues, and the solution isn't "Okay, then you get a 220 friend to do all the work for you too".

  2. #2
    Level caps are obnoxious. Just make all dungeons instanced.
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  3. #3
    Yeah instancing would be lovely. Pity that wasn't done when it was turned into an elite daily.

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    Bump for instancing and while your at it have the Mantis drop the Pieces needed to build Armor Drop again .
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    Yeah instancing would be lovely. Pity that wasn't done when it was turned into an elite daily.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dollcet View Post
    Bump for instancing and while your at it have the Mantis drop the Pieces needed to build Armor Drop again .
    Mantis Den is instanced.

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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizaka View Post
    Mantis Den is instanced.
    If it is instanced at all then it has to be the old " 16 Toons in 1 Groupselector , 17th opens second Groupselector " Scheme .
    And that Scheme doesnt really solve the Trains & Outdamage unless somebody is willing (or Insane enough ) to log 16 Toons for a Daily......
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    -there are Players without Towers
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  7. #7
    Easiest method is enter via Borealis door, if it's crowded exit and re-enter. 90% of the time I get a fresh GS to play in, and recently ended up in GS3.
    Yes, it's the old method still used by ToTW, but imo it's perfectly acceptable.

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  8. #8
    would be nice if the parts for mantis armor started dropping again there, is a strange situation that mantis armor recives an update (all dmg types on them) but the needed parts for it has stopped dropping.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizaka View Post
    Easiest method is enter via Borealis door,
    Hum, where is that door? I only know that you can exit to Bore, not enter from?

    Regards!

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    It is the same door that you appear next to when you leave Smuglers Den.
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  11. #11
    The same door you used to have to have Reet form to access? I remember that being declared an exploit..lol.

    Mantis Den needs its topography leveled out and also needs better mob density but I suppose those are tertiary issues.

    Also, has anyone seen Metallic Mantis armor mats drop? Did they remove them? Ive done the daily like 4-5 times now and havent seen a single piece.
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    Haven't seen a single bit of mantis armour precursor and I've done an obnoxious number of mantis den dailies levelling a variety of characters through both level range missions.

    Also the instance number caps have to be looked at. Splitting up teams over GSes is frustrating as hell. Allow the cap to accomodate all current team members when the first one enters. Or if the cap is goign to be hit after the first person steps in, bump that first person to the next instance with lots of spots. It's crap having to spend ages running in and out to try and gather the team all into one GS when you end up split over 2 or 3 even though you formed the complete team before anyone zoned in.

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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizaka View Post
    Mantis Den is instanced.
    Not in the sense we're clearly talking about
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