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    FTL - Log from first meeting

    [ edited for legibility and typos ]

    Swiftmind: Greetings and welcome to the FTL public meeting.
    Waggery: smiles
    Swiftmind: We will now get started. First I will introduce the people up here.
    Swiftmind: I am Director Moscardelli of a sub-department of Omni-Mining. I am glade to see all of you interested in the FTL concept. I believe it will help both neutral and omni citizens alike.
    Waggery: looks around her and nods to the people she recognizes
    Venomscrier: claps
    Waggery: applauds also
    Swiftmind: To my left is Director Jurik of RUR and to my right Mr. Orender of the Independent Rubikans.
    Enrima: coughs
    Venomscrier: claps
    Swiftmind: Mr. Orender has a few things to say. Please step forward Mr. Orender.

    Yarko: thank you director
    Yarko: Ladies, gentlemen and neuters, greetings,
    Yarko: For years now, Neutrals have been unable to obtain certain goods the usual way.
    Yarko: These are goods that are not on offer by Neutral shop terminals or traders.
    Yarko: These are goods that are unavailable to Neutrals by factioned shop terminals or traders.
    Yarko: These goods include items such as high quality medical supplies, nano crystals and... fashion.
    Yarko: smiles
    Yarko: Furthermore, it is impossible for Neutrals to enjoy a cup of coffee with friends in an Omni-Tek establishment,
    Yarko: or to get a Bronto-burger when hunger strikes in an Omni-Tek town.
    Yarko: The catering staff simply don't attend to Neutrals.
    Yarko: The fact that certain items can not be acquired the regular way opens opportunities for the less well-meaning and profit seeking elements in our society.
    Yarko: I recently got a report about huge profits being made by selling bad quality and even expired stims and decayed nano crystals.
    Yarko: Not only are such practices a danger to public health,
    Yarko: not only do people this way unwillingly support criminal organizations,
    Yarko: this way, Neutrals also need to spend much more of their hard earned credits then they should.
    Yarko: Ladies, gentlemen and neuters,
    Yarko: For these and other reasons, we promote fare trade, we promote free trade.
    Yarko: Neutral shops and traders won't be affected since they do not sell these goods anyway.
    Yarko: Omni-Tek shops and traders will benefit because of the extra customers.
    Yarko: And last but not least:
    Yarko: Neutral citizens will benefit because they will be able to acquire high quality goods for a fare price.
    Yarko: Ladies, gentlemen and neuters,
    Yarko: Join our campaign to lift trade restrictions and promote trade
    Yarko: Support the Free Trade League
    Yarko: I thank you

    Waggery: Hear, hear!
    Swiftmind: claps
    Minage: applauds
    Stanislaw: nods solemly
    Ziithka: Claps
    Destractor: claps
    Dookumi: smiles slightly
    Swiftmind: Thank you Mr. Orender.
    Venomscrier: shakes head.
    Swiftmind: Now on to Director Jurik who also has a few things to say. Miss. Jurik please step forward.
    Venomscrier: nods
    Venomscrier: shakes head.

    Dabblez: The Free Trade League has come into existence to campaign for changes in Omni Laws
    Dabblez: Laws which at this point in time are obsolete, inconsistent and unfair
    Dabblez: The recently expanded Omni-Tek Board of Directors gives us today
    Dabblez: and opportunity to make our voices heard
    Dabblez: But the way ahead is long.
    Dabblez: This is not something I expect we will resolve quickly
    Dabblez: Meetings such as these are important to raise awareness of the issue
    Dabblez: And our first aim is to get more organisations to sign up to the FTL charter
    Dabblez: to date FTL has Devil's Advocate Independent Rubikans Omni-Mining RUR and the South Rubi-Ka Society as members
    Waggery: Yay!
    Dabblez: But we need to get more and more organisations involved
    Venomscrier: shakes head
    Dabblez: Which means making a lot of noise
    Dabblez: rallies, marches, fundraiser parties
    Dabblez: anything goes..
    Waggery: Parties would be a good way!
    Dabblez: just make sure it gets noticed... and it’s legal!
    Venomscrier: shakes head again not liking this
    Waggery: DA parties are legal!
    Dabblez: Right that all I want to say
    Dabblez: Thank you

    Swiftmind: claps
    Yarko: applauds
    Waggery: applauds again
    Minage: applauds
    Ziithka: claps
    Dookumi: applaudes
    Swiftmind: Thank you Miss. Jurik.
    Blingbonk: In laimens terms then, FTL is trying to allow Neutrals access to Omni-Tek vending machines?

    Swiftmind: We will now take questions or comments from people. I will be acting as the meeting chair. If you would like to ask a question or say a comment please give me a tell with ? for a question or ! for a comment.
    Waggery: waves to Domiana
    Venomscrier: raises arm
    Enrima: has a comment
    Waggery: Come sit over here Domi
    Swiftmind: When you speak please say you are done when you are finished.
    Venomscrier: has comment
    Swiftmind: Destractor is the first to give me a tell. What is your question Destractor?
    Destractor: I believe Miir is a lil different to omni vendors, does anyone know why they will only sell to omni and clan personnel?
    Swiftmind: I can answer that.
    Destractor: that’s all I have to ask
    Destractor: looks at his rags
    Swiftmind: Miir is currently under Omni-Tek Rubi-Ka's trade restrictions. As you have noticed these restrictions are a little odd at times. This is what the FTL would like to fix.
    Dabblez: nods
    Swiftmind: Does that answer your question?
    Destractor: So omni trade restrictions allows them to sell to the clans?
    Destractor: looks confused
    Dabblez: No, Miir shops in Clan territory operate under Clan laws
    Destractor: ah ok
    Venomscrier: raises arm wanting to say something about this.
    Sephrim: scratches his head... Looking distracted.
    Swiftmind: Next we have Enrima with a question.
    Enrima: Ok a quick comment before I have to leave you. By my profession I have ties with Neutrals, even Omni employees. But This Fair Fair, being totally legitimate, raises a political problem... You know already where is the majority in Tir, aka where the Sentinels stand. Before petitioning forward the FT, all Neutrals must wonder if it will serve their purpose.
    Enrima: To put frankly: Sentinels' supporters will make you look more Omnis than Omnis, and myself I wonder if the OTs don't have to win in this business
    Enrima: Fair Trade contains in itself the risk of an open war between the Clans and the Neutrals, and that's a risk you must understand
    Yarko: hmm, well...
    Enrima: done thank you
    Venomscrier: making a report on this
    Yarko: first of all, we don't exclude the Clans from this
    Sephrim: sighs.
    Yarko: should the Clans wish to join, they are welcome
    Yarko: if they don't... it would hardly be fair to accuse us of supporting OT would it?
    Yarko: they have their chance, it's up to them
    Venomscrier: sighs
    Enrima: nods
    Yarko: does that answer your question?
    Enrima: It was more of a comment but, yes.
    Swiftmind: Ah.
    Enrima: I must leave you now, I'm in the jury of our party
    Dabblez: Thank you for coming
    Enrima: taps her comm link Requesting a warp
    Sephrim: Fair well Enrima...
    Yarko: Enjoy your party
    Waggery: wonders what kind of parties the Clan have, that have a jury
    Venomscrier: Farewell.
    Swiftmind: Thank you for coming Enrima.
    Enrima: you'r all welcome, again
    Venomscrier: nods
    Swiftmind: Next we have Venomscrier with a comment.
    Dookumi: looks over and just listens
    Venomscrier: I think if they want what we have they should join Omni-Tek.
    Venomscrier: Also.
    Dabblez: shakes her head
    Blingbonk: Swift didnt mention the Clan in this
    Venomscrier: Miir is its own business, under any form of free and fair trade it should be allowed to decide who it sells its wares too!
    Yarko: raises an eyebrow
    Sephrim: blushes
    Slotine: looks at venom for the outburst.
    Venomscrier: That is all.
    Dookumi: frowns and raises a brow
    Venomscrier: That is all.
    Dabblez: Venomscrier, the principle is called reciprocity
    Dabblez: If neutrals allow us full access to their shops and services, it looks bad for Omni that we do not return the favour
    Venomscrier: If they want to stay out of it....
    Venomscrier: Then that’s them.
    Dabblez: there are many more substantial reasons to work for Omni-Tek than access to Mirr
    Sephrim: Sephrim nods
    Dabblez: This ban on selling to Neutrals in selected shops is just petty, and it only harms Omni shopkeepers
    Venomscrier: But, like I said Miir is its own business, under any form of free and fair trade it should be allowed to decide who it sells its wares too!
    Dabblez: Bronto Burger, Mongol Meet, RUR, Sol Toys
    Dabblez: All these good are sold in Omni shops
    Dabblez: but not to Nuetrals. Why?
    Venomscrier: thinks about it.
    Venomscrier: I see....
    Sephrim: Yes, why...
    Venomscrier: nods
    Dabblez: The guys that make the leet doll
    Sephrim: Only a rather skeletal description of the actual problem has been described here.
    Swiftmind: smiles at Trybes comment.
    Dabblez: hides her leet doll
    Venomscrier: laughs
    Venomscrier: I said what I wanted to say. That is all.
    Swiftmind: If you are finished Dabblez I will move on to the next person.
    Dabblez: Sure
    Venomscrier: nods

    Swiftmind: Next we have Waggery with a question.
    Waggery: nods
    Waggery: My question has possibly been already discussed, if so I apologize. Anyway, are we campaigning to have neutral cities with Omni shops in them?
    Yarko: Err... no, we have no plans to conquer Omni-Ent right now...
    Yarko: smiles
    Waggery: No, I meant for instance, to have Omni shops in NLC
    Venomscrier: nods
    Yarko: The other way around really, allow Neutrals to shop in OT shops
    Blingbonk: sighs in confusion
    Waggery: But, not to have them in neutral cities? For convenience?
    Yarko: Hmm, that was not our idea...
    Sephrim: With the same cost modifiers applied to Omni-Tek for using Neutral terminals, of course...
    Swiftmind: or aim
    Waggery: Nono
    Waggery: Omni citizens should receive their benefits in them of course
    Venomscrier: shakes head.
    Waggery: Imagine, Borealis with Omni supermarkets!
    Venomscrier: .....
    Waggery: But wouldn't that be grand?
    Waggery: grins
    Venomscrier: shakes head
    Trybes: Instead of selling our wears to neutral merchants we could sell our goods to every neutral citizen at a lesser cost..
    Trybes: No more middleman.
    Trybes: smiles warmly.
    Domiana: grins.
    Waggery: Exactly!
    Swiftmind: I think you have the wrong impression. We want to remove restrictions on neutrals in current shops in Omni-Tek cities. We have no aims to build any new shops anywhere.
    Trybes: Hmm.. then it's something to think about then, eh?
    Waggery: What a shame.
    Waggery: It would be fabulous, think about it!
    Waggery: What says Director Jurik about this?
    Venomscrier: shakes head
    Trybes: Sure it might put some neutral shop owners out of business.. but think of the deals you could be getting.
    Dabblez: We have a manifesto with its stated aims
    Yarko: frowns
    Dookumi: raises a brow
    Domiana: }
    Dabblez: This is what we plan to stick to
    Waggery: Ah.
    Dabblez: Your suggestion is a different issue
    Waggery: My question's been answered. Thank you
    Waggery: I'm done.
    Swiftmind: Very well.
    Swiftmind: Ah
    Swiftmind: Next we have Blingbonk with a question.
    Blingbonk: Uhm yes thank you
    Blingbonk: since my last question I have 12 more questions trying to follow this meeting
    Blingbonk: so I will just pass, and just float this out for thought
    Blingbonk: I was talking to a neutral friend, I had sent him to a shop, in Omni Ent
    Blingbonk: He had to explain to me, he cant use the shops, or clan shops, I didn’t even know this until recently, It just seems wrong, that we can use all neutral shops, clan and omni, and The fence sitters cannot use the reverse
    Dabblez: nods
    Blingbonk: Sorry. That concludes my statement/question
    Swiftmind: nods
    Swiftmind: Thank you Blingbonk.
    Dabblez: I think we are all in agreement on that
    Swiftmind: Yes this is why we are here today.
    Dabblez - Rubi-Ka Universal Robots (RUR)
    We put the Art into Artificial Intelligence!

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    [ continued ]


    Swiftmind: I have no one else for questions or comments. I will ask one more time, anyway have anymore questions or comments to say?
    Sephrim: I do.
    Swiftmind: Alright Sephrim, is that a question or comment?
    Sephrim: It is both
    Swiftmind: Hmm, alright what is it?
    Sephrim: The question is why are the neutrals excluded presently, by both Omni and Clans alike?
    Waggery: can't help but stare at Marsis
    Marsis: looks around
    Sephrim: And the answer is: Balance.
    Swiftmind: umm that is something to ask the policy makers in omni-admin?
    Venomscrier: nods
    Waggery: blinks
    Sephrim: The neutrals are in a precarious position.
    Sephrim: teetering on the edge of an ongoing war.
    Venomscrier: nods
    Sephrim: For this whole trade agreement to work, the neutrals must have access to both clan and omni trade.
    Sephrim: But I have seen only one Clan member here.
    Venomscrier: nods slowly
    Venomscrier: agrees
    Swiftmind: Are you finished?
    Sephrim: You will need the cooperation of the Clans for this to take place, but then...
    Sephrim: The neutrals may become the center for trade.
    Venomscrier: I don't like that at all.
    Sephrim: And in the end. The scales will suddenly have three weights instead of two.
    Waggery: mutters, only if they have OT shops in their cities
    Sephrim: This may become a greater problem.
    Venomscrier: nods
    Sephrim: that is all.
    Venomscrier: claps
    Venomscrier: Woot!
    Dabblez: If I may
    Dabblez: With the advent of departmental shops
    Dabblez: The strategic importance of town vendors is much reduced
    Dabblez: Why even now members of the NLF might be buying QL alien grenade launchers from Div9's shops
    Yarko: grins
    Swiftmind: hehe
    Slotine: giggles
    Dabblez: What is at stake with FTL is minor by comparison
    Dabblez: And yes, ideally the Clans would also lift their trade restrictions
    Marsis: I doubt that, no one wants their crap
    Dabblez: But I can only lobby the Omni-Tek Board of Directors
    Dabblez: I doubt I would be welcome at the Council of Truth
    Dabblez: Though we have tried to sell them vacuum cleaner bots for the Tower of Truth a few times
    Slotine: giggles
    Dookumi: grins
    Dabblez: So it’s an opportunity for us to lead by example
    Trybes: Yes, by bringing our shops to the neutrals and their cities.
    Waggery: Hear, hear!
    Dabblez: I think that is it from me
    Yarko: If I may
    Swiftmind: Oh yes Yarko?
    Yarko: To bring OT shops to Neutral towns is not an option
    Yarko: we are and will always be Neutral
    Yarko: however, there is no reason why we should not have a peaceful cooperation
    Yarko: with or without the Clans
    Marsis: listens carefully and her face is getting darker and darker by every word spoken
    Trybes: Of course.. we could hire neutral employees at our Newland shops.
    Yarko: The way we propose, OT towns would benefit from neutral customers
    Yarko: take it or leave it
    Yarko: we are better of because we acquire goods
    Trybes: I'm just trying to make it more convenient for the neutrals, not convert you.
    Yarko: you are better of because you get our credits
    Yarko: it's a simple as that
    Slotine: tentatively raises her hand
    Trybes: Yes, and we are proposing to save you some of those credits.
    Venomscrier: mad
    Trybes: But if you have no ambition...
    Trybes: trials off
    Domiana: rolls her eyes.
    Renjori: starts to get angry at thinking of the NLF
    Venomscrier: just angry
    Swiftmind: Thank you Yarko.
    Sephrim: elbows Venomscrier...

    Swiftmind: Slotine you have raised your hand again. Do you have another question or comment?
    Renjori: cuuhd me arzk waht this meetun iz aboot?
    Venomscrier: nods
    Slotine: I've got a question..
    Swiftmind: What is it?
    Slotine: Yarko's comments made me think of something... and that is what about neutrals selling to our shopkeepers?
    Slotine: I mean....
    Slotine: Part of the perks of being Omni is that our shop keepers are somewhat subsidized in order to provide OT employees with a cash benefit when they do something for the company, like wacking leets...
    Renjori: smiles
    Renjori: arz leeda ov Newland me tinkz et a greet idea
    Slotine: It's a rather hefty sum compared to what the neutral shop keepers can reward... and well.. why should we pay taxes towards subsidizing neutrals? Just playing devil's advocate here.
    Yarko: My dear, let me tell you a secret. We already sell to OT shop keepers
    Slotine: gasps
    Waggery: grins at Slotine
    Yarko: That's the whole point, there's no logic in what's possible and what not
    Yarko: Some goods are sold, others are not
    Dookumi: blinks at the leet whaking comment and glares at Slotine across the room
    Marsis: stepps forward angrily
    Dabblez: eek!
    Swiftmind: rolls eyes
    Yarko: Some big hammers...
    Waggery: stares
    Marsis: you realy think you can pull this off, right Swiftmind ?
    Dabblez: creeps backwards
    Venomscrier: Nice Hammers!
    Swiftmind: Please remain by the couches request a comment if you have one.
    Blingbonk: Clan wealth and land control is Great, so much so, they don’t even consider FTL a threat
    Renjori: looks at the Nanomage liberator
    Trybes: Show off.
    Marsis: spits on teh ground
    Yarko: Did you have a question Marsis?
    Renjori: raises his hand and coughs
    Renjori: cuuhd me say soombting?
    Marsis: you don’t deserve common niceties
    Sephrim: You can't even come here without being aggressive... You are no better than a clanner.
    Marsis: and you Yark . .I didn’t expect something like that
    Venomscrier: Calm down Marsis.
    Marsis: looks around in disgust
    Renjori: da NLF are Racist against oos Atroxes
    Yarko: There are a lot of unexpected things in this world
    Marsis: to have anything to do with the Independent Rubikans
    Marsis: shakes her head sadly
    Marsis: They just want our money to increase there mining operation
    Yarko: Well, we always preferred to think before to shoot... Now did you have a question?
    Marsis: and we wont let that happen
    Swiftmind: Once again I ask if you have a intelligent comment to say? If you do please request one like everyone else by sending me a tell with ? for a question or ! for a comment.
    Marsis: start taking the neutral money as well and you will loose a lot of shop keepers
    Yarko: Going to blow up shops and traders now?
    Marsis: Thats all I have to say to this insanity
    Venomscrier: Can you please have a seat Marsis!
    Marsis: Sit - Here .. with you ?
    Marsis: I very much doubt that
    Renjori: Marsis me tinkz duw suuhd tink aboot da way duw treat Atroxes before addressun dis matter
    Swiftmind: Ah good the outburst is finished.
    Venomscrier: making a report.
    Marsis: turns around and leaves
    Swiftmind: Well then that concludes the question and comment part of this meeting.
    Waggery: watches the nanomages storm out
    Venomscrier: That’s not what we were talking about.
    Renjori: raises his hand then puts it down
    Waggery: Well, well.
    Swiftmind: I thank you all for coming and supporting the FTL idea.
    Stanislaw: I don't think they were in favour of the FTL
    Yarko: smiles
    Slotine: right Stani
    Minage: nods at Stani
    Trybes: Well then, now that the more ignorant of neutral society is gone, can we continue?
    Swiftmind: The meeting for today is now finished.
    Swiftmind: claps
    Renjori: sighs
    Waggery: sips her whiskey
    Domiana: laughs
    Dabblez: Thanks everyone.. remember this is just the beginning
    Swiftmind: alright I need to get going
    Yarko: Thank you for coming all
    Dabblez - Rubi-Ka Universal Robots (RUR)
    We put the Art into Artificial Intelligence!

  3. #3
    Bugger seems i missed the meeting, looked like it was kinda interesting, maybe next time i will be able to attend to continue my opposition to this. possibly with a pipe bomb or 2....

    Leftenant Steelyglint

    General of The Black Company

    (ooc. due to work i was unable to join in on this event, i hope i can participate in the next one)

  4. #4
    I have seen some opinions stating that placing Omni trade stations in Neutral shops would put some Neutral shop keepers out of commision. I have an alternative solution to that, that would be less detrimental, even possibly increasing the turnover for Neutral shop owners..

    Instead of placing Omni owned shops or separate Omni trade stations in Neutral shops, why not make Omni equipment available to Neutrals in the Neutral shop terminals? Items labeled for use by Omni personnell only, would of course be available to only Omni personnell in these shops.

    As neutral can already buy maps in Omni shops, and even sell to these terminals, the clothing and fashion shops should be available to Neutrals in Omni cities.

    This is kust my personal thoughts on the matter. Of course, the option for making Omni clothing and fashion shops available to Neutrals, my argument would also be valid for the Clan counterparts, including map terminals. This would increase the income for Clan shop keepers too.

  5. #5
    The idea is indeed to make it possible for Neutrals to buy from OT shops and traders, not to place OT owned shops or terminals in Neutral towns as was suggested.
    Marcos "Yarko" Orender
    co-Minister of Foreign Affairs, Newland City Council
    Advisor of The Independent Rubikans

    Rubi-Ka's neutral news source: The Independent Rubikan http://www.ir-news.org/

  6. #6
    Once again this is not the aims of the Free Trade League. The aim is to remove restrictions ON Neutrals FROM Omni-Tek shops IN Omni-Tek territory. The conversation about placing Omni-Tek shops in Neutral territory has nothing to do with the FTL manifesto; it was started from a question by an ambitious citizen.

  7. #7
    Sadly as other duties prevented me from attending the first meeting concerning this newly founded Free Trade Alliance, I would like to ask a few questions I had intended to ask at the meeting in person.

    Yarko, As an advisor to The Independent Rubikans, the oldest of all neutral organizations, Over the years I have grown to respect your way of looking out for the best interests of the Neutral Community as a whole. My questions are to you.

    What is the cost going to be to Neutrals, monetarily that is, in funding the FTL in the hopes it will succeed in lobbying its agenda? Many may see that the costs of funding the FTL is nothing compared to the rewards if the FTL is successful in its agenda. We do know that there is a chance that the FTL will fail in convincing Omni-Tek and the Clans if and when they decide to join the FTL. Past history clearly has shown us that these same types of Neutral / Omni ventures have cost the Neutral community dearly. A quick example would be the venture between RuR and Neutrals over the Neutral Token Board. This business venture cost the Neutrals millions of credits only to have no return on their investment. Clearly this FTL is a business venture and risk is always a factor. Though Neutrals should to be allowed to know how much that risk will cost them.

    I must say Yarko, your choice of fellow bedmates in this Fair Trade Alliance are rather interesting to say the least. One can plainly see the vested business interest of both Omni Mining and RuR, though their track records are not much to place great value on. What is the reason given to you by the Devil Advocates for their interest and support for the FTL agenda?

    Lastly Yarko, I must ask if you have given any thought to what could possibly happen in the future if the FTL is successful with its said agenda. On the whole the FTL seems to be a win, win for both sides. Has any thought been applied by you, as to how Omni-Tek, may use this alliance to further its own agenda? Omni-Tek already claims Neutrals as their own property. Would this not allow for Omni-Tek to more easily back these claims since they would now have the use of a “Neutral Mouth Piece”?

    ~Ramiyana
    Last edited by Ramiyana; Jul 5th, 2005 at 20:10:45.
    Amado "Ramiyana" Kuiper
    President of |REBEGIN|Strength, Purity, Vision

    Co-Founder of The Nanomage Liberation Front

  8. #8
    It is better to suffer wrong than to do it, and happier to be sometimes cheated than not to trust.

    If we ever want some kind of peaceful co-existence, we will have to learn and trust eachother. Distrust is very expensive and doesn’t lead anywhere.

    The Free Trade League is a loose association of Omni-Tek and Neutral interest groups. We campaign to see trade restrictions lifted. No money is involved and there are no obligations. This is no formal alliance but a mere group of interested people.

    And if I ever where to become a mouth piece, it would indeed be a Neutral one.
    Marcos "Yarko" Orender
    co-Minister of Foreign Affairs, Newland City Council
    Advisor of The Independent Rubikans

    Rubi-Ka's neutral news source: The Independent Rubikan http://www.ir-news.org/

  9. #9
    In one thing Ramiyana is correct. There is no guarantee of success. Over the next weeks and months we will attempt to present our case to Omni-Tek Rubi-Ka, but the decision is not in our hands and I suspect whatever we do will have to be very, very persuasive.

    Dabblez
    Dabblez - Rubi-Ka Universal Robots (RUR)
    We put the Art into Artificial Intelligence!

  10. #10
    The resistance of some sects of the neutral community is very puzzling to me.

    I've read the log from the FTL public meeting and nothing in there screams of an OT conspiracy to subjugate neutrals. My dear friend Waggery suggested something that would actually be harmful to neutrals and it was made clear by Swiftmind that that was not the intent of the FTL.

    Opening up Omni-Tek shops to neutrals on Omni-Tek lands is nothing more than GOOD WILL. Neutrals aren't being forced to buy from Omni-Tek shops. It just allows them the option to run to an OT shop to pick up a quick stim or 2 on their way to a mission, or wherever. The alternative is to go all the way back to Borealis or Newland. If thats what you want to do, then thats fine by me.

    There are neutrals out there that are neutral because they don't want to be involved in the war. We don't want the war either and we want to show the neutral community that Omni-Tek is a great place to work and Omni lands are a great place to live. I ask you, is that so wrong??

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarko
    It is better to suffer wrong than to do it, and happier to be sometimes cheated than not to trust.

    If we ever want some kind of peaceful co-existence, we will have to learn and trust eachother. Distrust is very expensive and doesn’t lead anywhere.

    The Free Trade League is a loose association of Omni-Tek and Neutral interest groups. We campaign to see trade restrictions lifted. No money is involved and there are no obligations. This is no formal alliance but a mere group of interested people.

    And if I ever where to become a mouth piece, it would indeed be a Neutral one.
    Well done Yarko. I must thank you for your very sterile and profit-driven answers to my questions. Not only did you not provide any real depth to your answers, contradicting what the FTL said at the meeting, you also have clearly shown just how deep you are now sitting in the back pockets of your fellow cohorts in the FTL. Before you make such a bold egotistical statement as "and if I ever were to become a mouth piece, it would indeed be a Neutral one", remind yourself to look up and really see who is pulling your strings. I blame myself for putting you in such high regard and for this, I apologize. This is my mistake and I should have seen you for what you truly are……

    ~Ramiyan
    Amado "Ramiyana" Kuiper
    President of |REBEGIN|Strength, Purity, Vision

    Co-Founder of The Nanomage Liberation Front

  12. #12
    Awfully sorry you don’t understand the voice of reason, but ah well, we can’t all be bright minds who blow up things rather then discuss I fear.
    Marcos "Yarko" Orender
    co-Minister of Foreign Affairs, Newland City Council
    Advisor of The Independent Rubikans

    Rubi-Ka's neutral news source: The Independent Rubikan http://www.ir-news.org/

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