Exactly : you can buy in store : time
it takes time to farm AI grouds, farm Lox and farm pande.
Exactly : you can buy in store : time
it takes time to farm AI grouds, farm Lox and farm pande.
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And like I said, time is valued differently depending on what goes on in that time. You don't need any special skills to AFK your way to levels at kite hill or as lvl 160 in inferno team or grinding VP by semi-AFKing in BS because you want to demonstrate how much you hate pvp. Now, you can skip that time through several options if that's what you want.
Leaving all the rest of the game that actually requires skill, friends and coordination with other players to you. If that's not good enough for you, then I guess you'll have to find another game where they do sell endgame gear.
Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
The Red Brotherhood
I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.
Means: about f'ing time :P
Satenia: heresy <3
Znore: Mastablasta <3
Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics
You can farm points in raidbots semi-AFK too so let's get those ACDCs and iGoCs in the store posthaste!
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That's your opinion...
My opinion is that you dont need more skill to leech in raidbots and get your BoC/AI bots /symbs than to leech in BS. So the "time valuation" is the same.
And no, I m not for a game that sells endgame gear. That's why I am against selling VP there.
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220, 220, 200, 164, 150, 116, 110, 82, 70, 57, 40, 21 ...
It's your own choice to join raidbots and leech and ruin the part of the game that's supposed to be fun. If you only want pvp, perhaps you should look to other games.
Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
The Red Brotherhood
I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.
Means: about f'ing time :P
Satenia: heresy <3
Znore: Mastablasta <3
Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics
Replace raidbots by BS and the sentence is still true.Originally Posted by Mastablasta
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So you're ruining PvP by joining BS now?
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No, according to Mastablasta, it's your choice to join a raidbot and afk leech and, hence, ruining your chance to have a fun moment.
I m saying that going into bs and afking instead of taking part is exactly the same, it ruins your chance to have a fun moment.
Except than some people (like me) find fun in getting in BS with a leveling toon, and people (like mastablasta) find fun into doing PvM raids.
To each his own ... but I dont see how the 2 are differents, and should not be treated differently when talking about buyable stuff.
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220, 220, 200, 164, 150, 116, 110, 82, 70, 57, 40, 21 ...
Well there's the unofficial bartle test that with it's about 1mill responses show that only 25% of people are into competitive pvp. Meaning that the majority don't really care for it, which is evident in the complaints about lack of running BS. Which means that the buyable VP is a perfectly targeted product.
And I'm not disagreeing, I'm just seeing that there's a point to making VP buyable as opposed to endgame raid rewards.
Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
The Red Brotherhood
I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.
Means: about f'ing time :P
Satenia: heresy <3
Znore: Mastablasta <3
Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics
lol at prices
3600 points/30$ for 1k tokens rofl )
FC really think someone will pay this price? /10 at least.
Some will, some wont.
Those that cant or wont can always get things the old fashioned way you know.
Buying buff cans or VPs or tokens or whatever should be seen as the route of last resort, not the first place you go to.
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Sure you can get it pretty quickly on a TL5 these days, but a few months ago I would of easily paid that instead of grinding endless missions on my 110 parry stick doc (missions - not fun in that setup)
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Reidventurer - 220 advy
Reidsma - 220 MA
So Sonikeep you would say that 3 dollars is a good price for 1000 tokens?
Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
The Red Brotherhood
I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.
Means: about f'ing time :P
Satenia: heresy <3
Znore: Mastablasta <3
Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics
$30 for instant 1k board? Sounds cheap to me.
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its 5-7 hours in s10 so yeas its ok for 3$
or just do daily every day and u will have 2500 when u ding 210.
Last edited by Sonikeep; Nov 17th, 2010 at 16:30:37.
are u the one getting 1.5billion creds per hour with an average toon in sec10, too? =)
You do 1k token in 7 hours in S10 with a toon that needs a 1k board ??
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Gridpain, Nfurter, Slayie, Forcedevente, Asafart, Theshrike, Whipingwillow, Malaucrane, Karmapolice.
Sloob since 2009 :
Coredumped,Needleworkr,Weepinwilljr,Gridpainjr,Bet amale,Lackwit,Dusttodust, Ouvreboite,Boohoohoo,Asafurt,Whatsthat,Aziraphale
220, 220, 200, 164, 150, 116, 110, 82, 70, 57, 40, 21 ...
ma in 200sh imps and predator can make it,
as for me i do it with twink ma and toon who needs tokens on follow )
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