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    Level lock decay

    Each patch comes with new items, and each time it either makes things easier to equip or overrides previous existing items till they become less powerful or even obsolete. The items that become easier to equip eventually find use with lower and lower level twinks, recycling the content of the game and ensuring such things have longevity. That's of course a good thing for all the work put into such items.

    But the problem lies with level locked gear. Most level locked items eventually go from great to worthless much faster, because no one needs the old stuff by the time the new ones come out. For example, you've got the notum tank armors, level-locked into froob oblivion, though these were once the best tank armors in the game, worth hundreds of millions. Or you have guns like the Hellspinner, a really cool soldier weapon that has become utterly outmoded by perenium blasters (and is level locked to 71 or something that makes it useless to sloobs).

    The suggestion is: review the level locks on old RK items to bring some colour back into the game. The stuff that is TL-locked like token boards are fine (though it would be nice to move the 400 and 1750 boards down a tl ), but for pre-15.0 patch, practically any of the items would be instantly revitalised with their level locks being halved (or 75% or something), and this would open a huge range of old items back into play, for little more effort than it takes to get an intern to go through the old DB, monitor the changes (s)he makes (which I'm sure people will download the db rips and scrutinise it with a fine-toothed comb) and have it in the next patch.
    Last edited by Chrys; May 4th, 2008 at 07:03:07.
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  2. #2
    Bump for this, even Froobs can hit the requirements on things like the Hellspinner before level 71 but are rejected from using them because of the level. It'd be cool, for the Hellspinner in specific here, to be able to use it in ToTW.
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    Gold Star for Chrys!

    Bump!

    Clear and consice argument. Problem identifed, examples given, and a resolution.

    Does FC actually ever read these forums? Lots of great ideas floating about, and some are just absurdly easy to implement -- like this one!

  4. #4
    bump.

    a large number of the level locked items on RK came pre-SL, hell, even pre-NW... things like the queen blade, and what not.. it would be great to see some of these items back being used again.
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    Would love to use the Azure Breastplate on toons where the -10% cost would be awesomely needed. Bump for this.
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    Debump, because then I'll realize how gimp I am when I'm over the level lock on an item and still can't equip it.

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    Thanks for bumps

    And just in case anyone is wondering, leave the skill requirements (or base requirements for armor) alone. This game is all about twinking, let's have more stuff to twink on!
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    Electronite: FFA also destroyed Clan hegemony when it comes to tower wars. Ironically the downfall was started by the most active pvpers. Another ironic thing is that the downfall happened due to pvm conflict. Silirrion: (We have pretty good anti-troll filters by now though) Means: Thong-wearing troxes will always be a part of this game and a point of AO pride. Keldros: Obviously reall trolls don't use conditioner Marlark: If this forum was Swedish in it's language .. id pawn you any day. 220 NT: tl7 is a joke most of the time. 90% of the people are double double dead. some are worth debuffing tho. Mastablasta: you guys are right and I'm wrong. Ebag: No. You alpha me'd due to the stat bug. More Ebag: I don't have any twinks currently, nor do I participate much in mass TL7 PvP (though I do go occasionally, usually just to watch). Questra: an MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds

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    If you like twinking, say AYYYYEEEEE
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    Electronite: FFA also destroyed Clan hegemony when it comes to tower wars. Ironically the downfall was started by the most active pvpers. Another ironic thing is that the downfall happened due to pvm conflict. Silirrion: (We have pretty good anti-troll filters by now though) Means: Thong-wearing troxes will always be a part of this game and a point of AO pride. Keldros: Obviously reall trolls don't use conditioner Marlark: If this forum was Swedish in it's language .. id pawn you any day. 220 NT: tl7 is a joke most of the time. 90% of the people are double double dead. some are worth debuffing tho. Mastablasta: you guys are right and I'm wrong. Ebag: No. You alpha me'd due to the stat bug. More Ebag: I don't have any twinks currently, nor do I participate much in mass TL7 PvP (though I do go occasionally, usually just to watch). Questra: an MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds

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    lol.. you and Fixietrox need to like make twink babies or something...

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    Bump
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    Electronite: FFA also destroyed Clan hegemony when it comes to tower wars. Ironically the downfall was started by the most active pvpers. Another ironic thing is that the downfall happened due to pvm conflict. Silirrion: (We have pretty good anti-troll filters by now though) Means: Thong-wearing troxes will always be a part of this game and a point of AO pride. Keldros: Obviously reall trolls don't use conditioner Marlark: If this forum was Swedish in it's language .. id pawn you any day. 220 NT: tl7 is a joke most of the time. 90% of the people are double double dead. some are worth debuffing tho. Mastablasta: you guys are right and I'm wrong. Ebag: No. You alpha me'd due to the stat bug. More Ebag: I don't have any twinks currently, nor do I participate much in mass TL7 PvP (though I do go occasionally, usually just to watch). Questra: an MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds

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    Some of the once-uber items and nanos could indeed use a re-balancing of the levellock.
    RB or Candycane would come to mind, or the (E)QB.
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    Bump for cutting 10 levels down on old RK level locked items (and maybe some nanos).
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    Electronite: FFA also destroyed Clan hegemony when it comes to tower wars. Ironically the downfall was started by the most active pvpers. Another ironic thing is that the downfall happened due to pvm conflict. Silirrion: (We have pretty good anti-troll filters by now though) Means: Thong-wearing troxes will always be a part of this game and a point of AO pride. Keldros: Obviously reall trolls don't use conditioner Marlark: If this forum was Swedish in it's language .. id pawn you any day. 220 NT: tl7 is a joke most of the time. 90% of the people are double double dead. some are worth debuffing tho. Mastablasta: you guys are right and I'm wrong. Ebag: No. You alpha me'd due to the stat bug. More Ebag: I don't have any twinks currently, nor do I participate much in mass TL7 PvP (though I do go occasionally, usually just to watch). Questra: an MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds

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    bump for twink maniacs
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  18. #18
    I'll actually bump this one, its a good suggestion. Some SL items could possibly be changed too.

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    Badadadadabump!

    Great idea
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  20. #20
    Yes. Do it now!
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