Sector 7 Weapons

[plugszzz]

Phoenix, thanks for keeping the masses informed as you work thru things in S7
I do agree, I looked at a recent db dump and the Carbine /fails for a solja. I could have equipped it in its current version at TL3, yet I'm working towards TL6 and was looking forward to an alternative in between SPB and Dshark at 210, since SPB pretty much sucks after 160ish for your normal damage hits.
Will continue to watch the feedback posts as they come along from the testlive crew :-)

[McKnuckleSamwich]

The obvious answer for prof locks is that it's easier to control.

A profession lock, for example, on a common item will make it easier to balance later on, it won't result in obscure twinking that suddenly becomes FOTM, due to the success of peculiar, previously unthought-of setup, like, an Agent with the SE pistol and a Onehander, for example.

While obscure setup's aren't really the norm, these days, it isn't that hard to imagine one. Like the typed kyr'Ozch Rapier+briefcase crat, using psychology as the attack skill. Or, the obviously unique (but wildly unsuccessful) shen stick Agent, I saw less than a year ago.

Or, the less obscure, but now overpowered TL7 fixer with onehander and MK5 hawk.

So, while profession locks do suck in-so-far-as limiting wide open setups and twinking opportunities, they do make it easier to balance the game.

If, for example fixer didn't have access to the onehander, they would likely be balanced: TL7 fixers moaned forever that they lacked FA support, if they hadn't had access to the onehander, this would have been a viable request. However, due to now havign solid FA support, AND access to onehander (and now having access to 4 fast recharging ranged specials), they are now OP'd.

If the onehander had prof locks, (or the situation was different), Fixer wouldn't now be offensively OP'd.

[Alternity]

It's also fun that the prof-locked weapons are in direct contradiction, to what Means had to say on level/prof-locks during the Fan Gathering Q&A

[chickeepie]

Phoenix, thanks for keeping the masses informed as you work thru things in S7
I do agree, I looked at a recent db dump and the Carbine /fails for a solja. I could have equipped it in its current version at TL3, yet I'm working towards TL6 and was looking forward to an alternative in between SPB and Dshark at 210, since SPB pretty much sucks after 160ish for your normal damage hits.
Will continue to watch the feedback posts as they come along from the testlive crew :-)

the carbine really shines through with the fa recharge. a good bit faster than the spb.

[PhoenixOfAges]

Just to be clear the weapons that drop in S7 are the Special Edition ones. The regular Kyr'Ozch Nunchacko as far as I know are dropped by the aliens that drop the other regular AI weapons and the new type by some general.

[Tinypain]

New weapons look nice but...damn....FC bump the equip reqs and boost the MBS of all the weapons. I liked the new heavy weapons cannon for soldiers. Pretty cool. No FA but checking duck-exp with a nice min/max dmg might be worth it if they raise the MBS up.

[plugszzz]

the carbine really shines through with the fa recharge. a good bit faster than the spb.

yea the FA recharge alone is the only thing that makes me want the carbine to try it out. that recycle itself would have me close to capping in current setup on my solja

[trollingstones]

I think those weapons fits perfectly to a game where you need to spend IP´s to be a successful,
now just right click and its in your hands ,amazing! and you dont need to spend single IP´s ,its a miracle!
Allmost like wielding APTs in hands ,must be good.

IP = Improvement Point

If someone really thinks these kind of things are really a good improvement to Anarchy Online,why dont we skip this part allready and go
straight to step 2.halve the reqs and double the damage,,geee o weee lets go straight to step 3 and remove the reqs completely and triple the damage.

[PhoenixOfAges]

Got my hands on a pair of Special Edition Kyr'Ozch Nunchacko then commenced to do some testing on my lvl 200 MA. If you want to skip the details the long and short of it is that against very high AC targets two nunchakos would be better for me due to their higher min damage value. Although against anything you won't only do min damage to if you don't crit fists are better.



Fists with about 1750 MA skill:
175-718 (545) @ 1.6/1.6

Special Edition Kyr'Ozch Nunchacko:
233-266 (299) @ 1.5/1.5



Damage per minute

Very high AC target:

agg/def: -56

Fists
	53 940
One nunchacko
	69 788
Two Nunchakos
	69 450


agg/def: -100

Fists
	47 674
One Nunchako
	50 628
Two Nunchakos
	55 916




Typical mid to highish range AC target:

Agg/Deff: -57

Fists
	109 706
One Nunchako
	 94 970
Two Nunchakos
	 98 280


Agg/def: -100

Fists
	84 557
One Nunchako
	63 971
Two Nunchakos
	70 704

I used the ICC Punching Bug (a very high AC and good defence thing in ICC on test for people to beat on that does not fight back) and Stinking Scorpids (lvl 205 mobs in Beliel Forest that drop the droppings for HI raids, they're all the same and there's a number of them) in these tests.


Agg/def: -100 is full def.
Agg/def: -57 & Agg/def: -56 is about 20% up from full def.