Kyr'Ozch Guardian and Kyr'Ozch Nurse + NSD vulnerability

[Lupusceleri]

Hello,

Kyr'Ozch Guardian and Kyr'Ozch Nurse adds as spawned by the Kyr'Ozch Maid in sector 7 are unaffected by Nano Shutdown.

Though the NSD lands, it does not stop them from nuking or healing, respectively.

It'd make sense to have NSD influence that; after all these NPCs are already calmable/rootable/snareable, so why can't a MP use his toolset too and become a very good asset (replacement for random CC prof) to a sector 7 team?

Is this intended? Could we change it, please? That might make MPs more wanted in the zone.

Sincerely,

Lup.

[Johnnykay]

"That might make MPs more wanted in the zone."

Lol you're an MP.

[Lupusceleri]

"That might make MPs more wanted in the zone."

Lol you're an MP.

Let's just say I don't have much issues performing well in Sector 7 - I do a truckload of damage and am capable of tanking a boss with one healer, because of my near perfect evades setup. I can also instantly refill half the tank's nanopool twice every 40s.

The problem is that peoples don't see a real use in having a MP along. Other profs can do damage as well, or tank better, or have some form of debuffs/CC to deal with adds. It's the good ol' "minimize the team and maximize the loot per person" problem that AO suffers from at most raids nowadays.

[jorricane]

Agreed, NSD should effect any caster-type mobs. However, by the same token, traders drains should also actually do something to casting on mobs - both nanite drains on a level 50 mish mob should stop it from using any form of nanos - but they still cast snares/-inits on my trader.

Interesting side note - the MA nemesis nano (vs MPs, -800 castings iirc) works on IS 2nd floor side bosses and effectively NSDs them...

Still, back on topic, /agree 100%.

[Brofist]

Agreed, NSD should effect any caster-type mobs. However, by the same token, traders drains should also actually do something to casting on mobs - both nanite drains on a level 50 mish mob should stop it from using any form of nanos - but they still cast snares/-inits on my trader.

Interesting side note - the MA nemesis nano (vs MPs, -800 castings iirc) works on IS 2nd floor side bosses and effectively NSDs them...

Still, back on topic, /agree 100%.

The trader drains did work on daily mission Technicians. Or at least they used to.

[Borgina]

It's the good ol' "minimize the team and maximize the loot per person" problem that AO suffers from at most raids nowadays.

Mission bosses drop more loot the more people that are in the team. Maybe FC needs to do the same with raid bosses. If a boss dropped twice as much loot with a full team than with only 3 in the team there'd be more chance of it dropping what people were after so they might actually want to fill teams.

[MyGift]

Mission bosses drop more loot the more people that are in the team. Maybe FC needs to do the same with raid bosses. If a boss dropped twice as much loot with a full team than with only 3 in the team there'd be more chance of it dropping what people were after so they might actually want to fill teams.

THIS!

Great idea, loot table scaling with team size. Even tho im one of those that do beast with 4-5 man i think its wrong...but its just how almost everyone do it today and its impossible to get anything for me in any other way since i got very limited time i can play.

This idea might finally make team play desirable again. Do that for all bosses ( alb/DB/xan/beast etc ) and AO might become nice place to hang out once again.

[lainbr]

All New content FC did after AI expansion launch (but dailies and some random nonhard stuff) is NSD unnaffected. Guess why MPs are so broken and gimp. Our best debuff does nothing in most content. WTF?!

[jorricane]

The trader drains did work on daily mission Technicians. Or at least they used to.

Maybe its just weird scaling then, alls I know is on standard RK mish mobs trader drains seem to do jack-all in stopping mobs casting, no matter what drains vs what mobs. I could just be having random bugs tho - anything goes in AO....

[Zwelgje]

according to my experience Technicians are easy drainable and effected by a Trader around lvl 190+

[Manaas]

or you know, they could make raids hard enough to justify 12 or 6 people or 24 people and just increase the loot at the same time.

Cause atm the less people, more loot thing fits because pvm is that easy.

[nanoforcer]

There are far to many mobs where nsd lands but dosen't do jack, specially in catacombs, they prolly trigger their nanos via some proc-on-hit.

Rather boring actually.

[Marijke]

Yep. Most "newer" mobs don't cast any nanos at all. Their nanodamage attacks are mostly procs and thus, unaffected by NSD and drains.

[Typeon]

Welcome to anarchy as a MP.

You'll feel even more alone @ tl7!!!!!!!

MP's IS A TOPNOTCH profession, go FC!

[Hardcore]

Hey! atleast we do better dd than docs and enfs (sometimes) !

[lainbr]

Hey! atleast we do better dd than docs and enfs (sometimes) !

I odd most soljas. Period

[PhoenixOfAges]

Kyr'Ozch Guardian and Kyr'Ozch Nurse adds as spawned by the Kyr'Ozch Maid in sector 7 are unaffected by Nano Shutdown.

Though the NSD lands, it does not stop them from nuking or healing, respectively.

Unlike some NPC nanos those nanos have no skill level checks so no matter how low you drain them they will always be able to use them. On the other hand the S7 nuke and DoT were given a def check a ways back so draining their skill with NSD, trader drains or such should make resisting them easier.