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Rimor
Tesgri - 220|17|58 (Omni Agent)
Leara - 220|25|62 (Omni Doctor)
Ponygirl - 220|25|56 (Omni Bureaucrat)
Means: "We have done way dumber things than this..."
Don't say things you can't live up to IMO. I'm sure he was well aware when he said it that they had no one capable of producing videos on staff (like he said a few weeks later) and that this task would fall on himself.
They need to just stop spewing out timeframes, they never live up to them...just like the "later this year" every single year for the last 3 years in regard to the engine.
Autohead 220/30/70 Solitus Soldier - Synergy Factor
Auron 220/25 Keeper ::: Shadowslave 220/23 Shade ::: Radius 211/21 Nano-Technician
Sunza 207/21 Martial Artist ::: Voss 182/15 Engineer ::: Shadowhead 150/16 Agent
Not saying it's not late or he shouldn't produce it. Just saying that he never promised it. Promising things tends to have a more concrete "You must do this" type of connotation to them that just isn't there in something like "I hope I can".
Enter the Information Age
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Hunt, and be hunted: The Hunting Grounds | Alien Tower Field :Aliens, that really invade!
Pet argo management: Servants Protection | Expand the Notum Silo :Make it worthwhile
Rimor
Tesgri - 220|17|58 (Omni Agent)
Leara - 220|25|62 (Omni Doctor)
Ponygirl - 220|25|56 (Omni Bureaucrat)
Means: "We have done way dumber things than this..."
I didn't know that we wouldn't have resource in house to produce this. Been rather busy since...sorry about that. I'll try not to get personal in this response as it won't be productive.
Is the engine late? Absolutely. Are we still working on it? Yes. Has the scope and destination changed many times during the journey? Again...Yes. We continue on despite the MANY setbacks we have encountered as we feel that it is worth it. We understand you want it now...so do we.
Colin Cragg
This "Means" Cake
Past Game Director (2008-2011)
Honestly, I'm more anxious for breed change & rebalance than I am for the engine.
As far as things we've been told that haven't come true, I think the majority of my disdain for this comes from my line of work. I am legally bound by everything I say to our customers, if even the smallest inkling of it is untrue I am opening myself up for a lawsuit, losing my license, and even going to jail. So, when I see people with free reign to say pretty much anything they want and get away with it, it irritates me.
Autohead 220/30/70 Solitus Soldier - Synergy Factor
Auron 220/25 Keeper ::: Shadowslave 220/23 Shade ::: Radius 211/21 Nano-Technician
Sunza 207/21 Martial Artist ::: Voss 182/15 Engineer ::: Shadowhead 150/16 Agent
This is new video of engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWZ40120BQ
You dont need to thank me Means.
SOON™coming back...
Neosh 220/20 Shade | Neokirurg 220/21 Doc crit setup | Neoc 216/18 Crat
Shades are really invisible (from FC point of view)
Patterns/symbs SALE ----- Refined imps SALE
At this point some quick FRAPSing in the spirit of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2WQB74W6_4 would be enough . . .
If you really want a "produced" video upload some FRAPSed HD rush on a public server and let us edit it ! I m up for a music/sound design on it.
(some work i did that ended on youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppnPhafRtd0 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjCZluElJmI)
Bump for Djantro , getting the community involved in something like this could be only positive if you can't produce a high quality video yourself inhouse.
Nice stuff Djantro!
-Equilibrium-
Perkable - 220/30 Crat
Enforcblack - 220/30 Enf
Blacklist - 200/30 Adv
Blackhawkzz - 200/30 Crat
Nano93 - 168/23 NT
Blackhawkss - 164/22 Sold
Black - 150/20 Enf
Blackhawks - 126/15 Agent
Cannibalz - 92/9 Enf
Blackhawks00 -57/6 MP
Blackhawkd - 29/3 Tard
Yes, just show us some nice fraps... les us participate in the progress you make. We cannot see inside changes on code like performance boosts etc, but well, just involve us more.
Personally, I would already ask you to push what you got to testlive.
Release early, release often - Open Source Philosophy.
regards
Happy employee of the Omni Tek corporation.
I am destruction. I am creation. I am Engineer.
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yea, dammed if u do dammed if you dont
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Taskdoc Level 220 Doc
Jarew Level 220 NT
Tasker1 Level 220 Fixer
Taskcrat Level 220 Crat
Tasky Level 220 Trader
Taskmann Level 220 Adv
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Happy employee of the Omni Tek corporation.
I am destruction. I am creation. I am Engineer.
Free Tradeskill Services on RK1. Includes AI Armor.
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Open Source Licenses, enjoy your freedom
I can almost guarantee you that people will complain "as the (insert_item_here) is now, it's a huge disapointment. I quit." if they put an alpha product onto testlive. And that's what I was commenting about.
That being said, I do believe Means said something about running an extended test period on the new engine *when it is ready* for this. (Or I may have dreamt he did.. I am pretty sure he said it, though).
PS: I'm not saying people shouldn't complain. I'm just saying that we should understand that FC can't please everyone. Someone will always be unhappy, no matter what you do. It's all about finding that delicate balance where you upset the less amount of people - and doing what you feel is right at the same time. Kudos to the devteam for being as communicative as they are, even though their expected launch dates overshoot horribly from time to time. It happens.
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im just really happy this game is still around .
my life would be different without it .
With all my power I give courage to me and my family
I've foresworn leeting myself or ninjaleeting anyone else (since about the start of June) until the engine is in place. Smokers trying to quit their habit have things easier, so lets get this thing done.
Hopefully, little or none of the delays is a matter of pulling resources off for other projects. I can imagine where AO got allotted 2 months in the Bejing office for heads and, having overshot that w/o finishing, they reallocated 8 of 10 artists back to TSW stuff; leaving 2 artists to soldier on with the headwork at a slower pace.
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Dagget
President,
Venice Academy
Renowned jester of the double AS Tigress
MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds
And now ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQsiLDAxud0
*edit* or if thats too much for you, try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoMt7...eature=related
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wtf happened to my avatars eyebrows?
I used to listen to Dubstep in the 90's... every time I connected to the internet.
Eroz, finally 220/26/70 Adventurer & proud General of Regulators on ex-RK2 (outdated) equip
Rokroland, 170 Engineer No more crab for j00 Northern Front on ex-RK2
Ranged roxxorz!
Sig last updated properly when West Athens still had people sitting about the subway.
from what i gather, and maybe I'm wrong, almost all (except very simple web browser based) mmo's have continually updated content added, improvements made and bugs fixed over time. In very few occasions (using AO as an example) is something released completely finished and working at 100%.
in my line of work, we go with the 90:10 rule. it's quite simple. the amount of effort it takes to get something running at 90% efficiency, is about half the effort it takes to get something running from 90% to 100% efficiency. although this may not always be the case, it usually is. that extra 10% is the nitty gritty details, and fine tuning, that usually cannot be corrected until a project is released and in full use. i imagine the release of the new ao engine will follow that same pattern. if not, and the devs are trying to reach 100% before release, we are in for a very long wait, imho
Have a listen to my latest musical abomination.
Fixers run while engi's Build
Soldiers gun near crats coffee, spilled
It's working for me though.
For Vha.Chat I've began using a build server to push out nightly versions to users pretty much all the time.
With many people helping me to test those builds, the final release was much more stable than I could have accomplished alone.
Not to mention, when I did fix something I could get instant feedback whether the reporter of the bug also deems it fixed in the new nightly version.
I'm not saying it's perfect, but on my project it certainly contributed to a more stable and better result.
And remember, some of the fancy 3rd party tools you're enjoying in AO are open source
But I'll agree on earlier statements that it's not exactly a suitable model for AO.
Formerly Vhab.
Once upon a time ruled a server. And then sold out. Sorry.